Cut Down Model 25-2

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  1. StrawHat

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    This was the subject of a discussion on another forum. The general consensus was it was worse than having your daughter dating a used car salesman.

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    The barrel was cut to 3.5”, probably with a chop saw. There were burrs big enough to draw blood. The grip frame was rounded to RB K size. A set of stocks were altered to fit but not refinished. No front sight and as you can see, absolutely filthy from shooting. The gun was for sale in a gunshop. The poster said the trigger pull started okay but got increasingly harder, in other words it stacked, horribly. The hammer is also bobbed.


    I pm’d the poster and established he was going to pass on the purchase. I got the name and number of the dealer and a deal was made. The purchase also included a 4” barrel.

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    When I received the revolver it was filthy and the action did stack. The action I hoped was the result of a poor mainspring or too short strain screw. When I removed the stocks I found this.

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    That strain screw was nearly out of the frame! Grabbed an Allen key and snugged it up. Voila! The trigger pull smoothed right out.


    The rounding of the grip frame and the hammer bob are both well finished. The face of the trigger is also polished nicely.


    Turning my attention to the 4” barrel I found it is shortened from a 6 or 6.5” barrel for a Model 25-2 so appropriate for this frame and cylinder. The front sight leans slightly to the left

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    but that is easily corrected.


    So, my plan is to r&r the 3.5” barrel with the 4” barrel, groove the backstrap, straighten the front sight, reblue the straps, fit a pair of elk stocks (alter a set of N frame round butts) and add a grip adapter. At that point it will go to the range to be targeted and see if it likes my favorite ACP load. It may become an EDC piece but I have lighter ACP revolvers for that.


    The only bad thing is we are getting ready to move so all of my gunsmithing tools are packed away. Not a bad thing really as I got to drive to an old acquaintance and talk him into doing the work. It really didn’t take a lot of convincing, Mr Horvath does it for a living.


    Kevin
     
  2. v8stang289

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    Cool project! One I'd love to have as well
     
  3. Iggy

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    Good plan.
     
  4. Pat Riot
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    When I first started reading your post @StrawHat I thought “Man, that’s a real shame. If I ever come across something like this I will have to rescue it.”
    Glad to see that’s exactly what you did. :thumbup:

    Please post photos when you have it done.:cool:
     
  5. Jim Watson

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    Sounds like that took it from an interesting project to a Big $ Job.

    A lot of folks would have just crowned the chopped barrel, put a sight on it, and maybe cut some cute flutes or flats down the side of the barrel to erase the truncated roll marks. I have seen several police surplus revolvers cut to the Magic Three Inches with that done.
     
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  6. DR505

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    Yes, I commented on this one prior to your purchase, in the other forum. I do like Model 25's and am glad you are performing this rescue.
     
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  7. nofendertom

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    Years ago I bought a similar revolver off of a long time retired LEO. It was a S&W Mod 25-2 with a 2 1/2in barrel (from the front of the frame) and a K frame
    round butt. I thought it was a Lew Horton or a Jovino or some distributor model but he had S&W paperwork and the blue box matching the gun. S&W had
    done all the work. A really nice gun. I have toyed with having my 6in 25-2 cut to 4in---but I just can't do it. Smith 25s and 28s are the way to go.
     
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  8. bannockburn

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    Kevin

    Nice reclamation project! Hope everything goes okay with the repairs and it's back in your hands real soon. Of course more photos needed after the work is through.
     
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    Howdy

    I found out years ago that if the strain screw is backed out too far the hammer spring will jam against the frame. Back it out too far and the hammer can't even go all the way back. Glad you got to the bottom of that right away.
     
  10. StrawHat

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    I graduated from the [email protected] Armorer’s School back in the 80s. The first thing I learned was “tighten all the screws”. I can do all of he work but need to the tools and a bench. Pretty sure Andy Horvath has forgetten more than I know about S&W revolvers.

    Pictures when it comes back.

    Kevin
     
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  11. Dframe

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    Very nice project Strawhat. Long time no see. Good to hear from you again
     
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  12. Dave T

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    Had I come across that gun in it's original condition I would have had to buy it, and I don't need it at all. I have a 4" custom M25-2 Mountain Gun (tapered barrel/round butt). Having its 3.5" HB cousin would be a hoot. Bet they would weigh about the same thing.

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  13. StrawHat

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    Once I get the 4” barrel installed and the rest of the work completed, it will join in with some of my other ACP revolvers.

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    Kevin
     
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    WOW StrawHat !! that picture will just about take your breath away. Very nice collection and I really enjoy the uniqueness of each one. I'm not up to you gunsmithing skills but none of my 1911's or revolvers have identical grips. It helps me identify them quicker and it is is enjoyable.
     
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  15. StrawHat

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    Thank you, I certainly enjoy them. The bottom two are ones I built decades ago. The 1917 is merely a chop and resight. The Model 28-2 was a bit more work.

    Glad you enjoy them.


    Kevin
     
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  16. Jim Watson

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    I now consider round butting my Highway Patrolman to be a mistake.
    And putting a 4" barrel on a round butt Combat Magnum was not as nice as I thought it would be.
     
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  17. horsemen61

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    Can’t wait to see it sounds awesome!
     
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  18. StrawHat

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    I also rounded the butt on the Highway Patrolman as shown in the photograph. I am still trying to get used to it all these decades later. The good thing about the round butt is you can put square sticks on them. The stainless revolver in the photograph is an ACP Mountain Gun with a round butt and stag conversion grips on them. With the Magnas and grip adapter it makes a difference but I am getting used to the HP also.


    What was on it originally, if I may ask? On the K frame, I consider the 5” barrel to be ideal. The 4” is slightly less desirable in my opinion but not terrible. On my the N frame, the 4” is optimal.

    Kevin
     
  19. Jim Watson

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    It was a 4" Model 19 barrel put on a roundbutt Model 19, replacing the 2.5".
    Highly recommended but it felt droopy in front. (Same with 1911 "Bobtail.)

    I had 4 barrels cut to 5" for all different frames in IDPA Revolver. Then they reduced the barrel length to 4". Phooey.
     
  20. kidneyboy

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    I am strangely attracted to this hacked up version. Clean it up and put a front sight on it and I'd be good. Even better - put a red dot on it.
     
  21. StrawHat

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    Just got a message from Andy Horvath, it is ready for retrieval,!!

    Kevin
     
  22. horsemen61

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    Pics please!!!
     
  23. StrawHat

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    Got to pick it up first. I won’t be in that neck of the woods until September.

    Kevin
     
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  24. horsemen61

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    When you get it of course
     
  25. Riomouse911

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    Nice! Im looking forward to seeing the results for sure :thumbup:.

    Ive got a Smith 14-3 out for a barrel bob to 5”. The original owner stuck a squib and bulged the 8 3/8” barrel about an inch and a half from the muzzle. Gonna be a while before this gun comes home :(.

    Stay safe.
     
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