CZ 40 B- What's it worth?

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I have the chance at a 40b in a trade. My question is: What is fair value on one of these in great condition, like new per se? Not seeing any up-to-date valuing of these.

Trade in question is for a Hi Point 995TS with Bushnell TRS25, 60 rounds of 9, in like new condition. Is it worth it? I'm a big fan of my 995s, but having never owned a 40b, I don't wanna get burned.
 
I enjoy my CZ 40B, but mostly because its unusual. Its a good shooter but I've not run a lot of rounds through it.

I paid something like $275 for it new in 2003 with two 10-round mags. CZ75B mags can usually be made to work if you aren't particular about the fit of the baseplate, and are willing to file a bit on the mag catch notch and maybe open up the back where the slide passes through to strip the next round.

Story is they were made from parts for a large Colt sub-contract for a gun that Colt ultimately canceled, so CZ made them into the CZ 40B.

I haven't seen a CZ 40B at a gun show in a very long time, so personally I'd do the trade, you can always by another HiPoint and TRS-25 if you still miss them afterwards.

Since it was not a large production run gun, spare parts might be an issue, I'd go the CZ and/or Numrich websites and see if they still list parts for it.

Edit: Probably the cheapest way to get 12-round mags for it is to get some of the .41AE mags from CDNN, assuming they still has some for sale, and do the minor mods I described above.
 
I do find the history, albeit short, of this pistol interesting.

The gent has yet to send me pictures (email is my least favorite contact source), but he's in the market for a nice PCC. His original offer was a S&W Bodyguard 380 with ammo and laser, but I don't find it useful for me. The 40b, however, strikes my fancy as a CZ fan and owner.

True, I can get another 995 AND red dot. Maybe not a 40b. Good point.
 
Since it was not a large production run gun, spare parts might be an issue, I'd go the CZ and/or Numrich websites and see if they still list parts for it.

CZ built quite a few originally, and then shipped out a second (and maybe third) production group of guns a year or two later.

Most of the internal parts are pure CZ-75B, so unless you have something unusual, you'll not have any problems with parts. And from what I've seen, the 40B has been a relatively trouble-free gun.

I've had a BUNCH of CZs over the years, and have only an 85 Combat, now -- the second CZ I bought. The 40B I sold, some years ago, is probably the ONLY CZ I really regret selling.

Probably the cheapest way to get 12-round mags for it is to get some of the .41AE mags from CDNN, assuming they still has some for sale, and do the minor mods I described above.

Any of the new CZ .40 mags for the fullsize guns and any for the older Tanfoglio .40 guns (small frame) shouid work. I think some of the new Mec-Gar mags are 12-rounders. The only difference between the standard CZ-75B .40 mag and the CZ-40B .40 mag is the baseplate. CZ once had some on if the 40B baseplates on hand and you could buy them; I don't know if that's still the case. The standard mags work fine, just aren't as PRETTY as the 40B mag (because of the special 40B baseplate.) You can always swap baseplates from the factory 10-rounders and put them on the 12 round mags -- or use the standard mags for the range.
 
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I paid $350 for mine, with 4-10rd mags:) Best shooter I own, and best factory CZ trigger too...
 
Great pistola... Had a couple years back (bought NIB from CDNN for $290)...
Very accurate, very well made... like Walt, should've kept one, but was trying to get away from .40 S&W.
Price wise, in VG condition $375-400 is a decent price. The COLT 40Bs will probably sell for allitle more.
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GZOh said:
The COLT 40Bs will probably sell for allitle more

The few I've seen (either in person or on a web site) sold for CONSIDERABLY more... as in $hundreds more. The one I handled had an unbelievably smooth DAO trigger. They made a few DA/SA models, allowing cocked & locked in the standard CZ-75B style.
 
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The Colt Z-40 has a glass smooth DAO trigger - we actually had 6 of these guns in our shop when they first came out. If it wasn't for the stupid AWB requiring a 10 round only magazine in a full size frame, I would have bought one. Wish I had.
The 40B is an excellent pistol with a good rep - trade the Hi Point for it.
 
The Colt stamped versions sell for over twice the price, despite being identical firearms.
 
Around here, 40B's are usually $400. Anything in .40 right now seems to be cheap though. Maybe too many trade ins, or people starting to turn away from the .40 round...not sure. The 40B is the big brother of the Rami, so there's that.
 
I went for it.

I'm now a new CZ40B owner.

Has some dings here and there, but id say it's 85-90% externally (gent was a retired HWY patrol for Missouri, was his duty gun) and near 100% internally. Has a very nice trigger, and smooth action. Was dirty as heck (retired in 2004, kept pistol in back of safe), but it's seen only 225-250 rounds in 15 years by previous owners account.
 
Congrats... You bought an excellent pistola... enjoy it!
Let us know how she shoots... and some pics!
 
Re: dings... Most matte black auto touch up paints are a near-perfect match to the CZ polycoat. (I've found, however, that if you buy the spray can version, rather than the small bottles, the paint is thinner, and when applied [after spraying some onto a piece of aluminum foil or a plastic plate] with a small brush, the chip or scratch can be almost invisible.

The 40B should NOT be dry-fired, as it has the old style firing pin retention roll pin, which breaks more easily than you'd expect. (CZ went to doubled roll pins in later models, and then -- I think -- to solid pins.) (I used to scoff at that warning until I broke the one in my gun.) I think the manual says this -- but I don't have one on hand.

Happily, the roll pin can be replaced by getting at almost any hardware store. You will have to cut it to length. You might consider buying one now, and cutting it, and setting it aside. A rubber o-ring of the proper size, inserted in the rear of the slide, will keep the hammer from hitting the firing pin, if you want to dry fire.
 
I think he was mistaken. Its an '06.

Where's the retaining pin located? There's a roll pin in slide just below and forward of rear sight. If that's it, it doesn't appear to be broken.

Its thicker walled than anything I use at work of comparable size.
 
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Where's the retaining pin located? There's a roll pin in slide just below and forward of rear sight. If that's it, it doesn't appear to be broken.

You've found it.

I didn't mean for you to think it's broken -- only that they CAN be broken by dry-firing. It's not an unheard of thing... (Dry firing, without something to retard the firing pin -- like a primer or the spring-loaded "primer" of a snap cap -- advances too far and hits against the firing pin retention roll pin. Do that often enough, and it COULD break.

If you decide to remove it, pay attention to the parts diagram or observe closely the firing pin orientation when you remove it -- as there is an UP and DOWN slide to the firing pin. Be sure to "control" the end of the slide, as when you take the pin out, the firing pin, which is pressed against a spring, can come flying out -- and can be hard to find.

If you don't have one, they probably have CZ-40B manuals on line at the CZ-USA website.
 
Awesome - now for a range report, sir!

bc1023, the Colt Z-40 and the CZ 40B are not completely identical, as the production Z-40 is DAo and the production 40B is DA/SA.

I wouldn't mind owning a Z-40 just for the collection, but not $1000 worth of want. :)
 
When I push rear of firing pin, front of pin that strikes primer does not fully exit the channel.

Is there a firing pin safety im not aware of?
 
meanmrmustard said:
Is there a firing pin safety im not aware of?

Perhaps...

If you're doing this with the slide on the frame, the trigger must be pulled fully to the rear. If the slide is OFF the slide, you've got to be pressing UP on the cylinder in the rear of the slide (which is what linkage from the trigger/firing pin block mechanism does.)
 
When I push rear of firing pin, front of pin that strikes primer does not fully exit the channel.

Is there a firing pin safety im not aware of
The 40B should have a firing pin safety linked to trigger position. Walt called it.

Something also to note is that some firing pins in hammer-fired guns are 'inertial' and therefore are shorter than their channel; they only protrude forward when smacked hard on the back by the hammer. That is what makes the design inherently safe when the hammer is resting on the slide with a round chambered. The 1911, for example, works this way. Pushing the rear of the firing pin flush with the back of the slide will not cause the firing pin to protrude thru the breechface.

The best way to tell if everything is OK is via the pencil test - drop a pencil, eraser end first, into the barrel while holding the UNLOADED gun pointed skyward and then pull the trigger. If everything is working properly, the pencil will jump noticeably when the hammer drops.
 
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