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CZ 52 Who has one?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by throw1out, Nov 3, 2012.

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  1. ZeSpectre

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    I like mine just fine, it is a fun range toy. Ammo was so dirt cheap in the past that I have a LOT but eventually that will run out. I like the cartridge as well and wish someone would produce a modern pistol/carbine combination for it.
     
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    I was wanting a Cz52 for years before before finally pulling the trigger when my C&R license came in (about 10 or so years ago).

    I didn't like it.

    I wanted one as the looks and action seemed unique and I really like the 7.62x25 cartridge.
    I still like the aesthetics as it looks like a CZ50 on steroids, but I grew disenchanted with the pistol overall. It had perhaps the worst ergonomics of any pistol I've ever handled, it rated higher-than-average on the pita scale to reassemble after field stripping (both aspects being relative, I know) and I found the trigger lousy and my accuracy results mediocre.

    I know there are many who love the CZ52, but I'm certainly not one of them.

    I bought a Yugo M57 on a lark later and fell in love. It's not perfect, but I like the Tokarev a heck of a lot more than the CZ52 for a whole host of reasons. The M57 is similar in size to the CZ52, but feels much less bulky/massive in the hand. I also shoot the M57 far better.
    I eventually sold the CZ52 with no regrets for 3 times what I paid for it (after the supply from the distributors ran dry).

    They are not bad pistols and are great for plinking and are a wonderful addition for any surplus military collection. However, I simply do not like them.
     
  3. Robbins290

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    I like mine, have had it since the good ole $139 days. It is a 1954 original-condition pistol and it has always performed well for me. Ergos aren't so great, I'll agree, but take down and reassemble is real easy and fast. Mine has never failed in any form except for bad ammo (I got some Yugo ammo once that was click-bang, click click bang, click click click in nature).
     
  5. Carl N. Brown

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    I wanted one ever since I saw it in the reference book W.H.B. Smith's "Small Arms of the World" in the 1960s. I thought it was exotic. Still do. Maybe I had low expectations as to practicality, so I was overall pleased with it once I shot it. It is not an ideal weapon, but I bought it as a historic collectible back when they were 129.00 with holster, 2 mags, cleaning rod, and lanyard (ca 2004).

    I use the decocker to release the hammer, with the thumb of the offhand blocking the hammer fall, and never lower the hammer on a loaded chamber anyway. And JIC I bought two spare firing pins but normal use (live fire, no dry fire) does not seem to be a problem.

    I shoot it occassionally in modern military matches and accuracy depends a lot on the ammo. Some lots of military surplus are all over the paper, others shoot better. Ever so often, I shoot S&G 7.62x25 boxer-primer factory ammo from the bench to collect empties to reload for my old broomhandle C96. In fact I have carried the CZ 52 as a woods walking sidearm on the mountain.

    Like Ash above I got a batch of good looking 1986 surplus ammo that at least every magazine there is one round at least that requires a second strike. It is great at the range for curing a case of the flinchies: I learn to hold through and not anticipate recoil, to avoid the embarassment of dipping or heeling when the hammer goes click instead of the round going bang. Commercial ammo from the same manufacturer with boxer primers runs perfect in the CZ52, so I suspect a batch of ammo intended for slam-fire open-bolt SMG use (packed 70 rounds per box, berdan primers, PPU headstamp). I got the same effect with a different pistol by reloading with small rifle primers instead of small pistol primers.
     
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  6. Ash

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    The ammo would have been for both pistols and subguns, but I imagine the focus was on subguns with a nod to pistols. Hard primers are preferred on a submachine gun, and that was their main focus. It is safe to shoot in a pistol, particularly a 52, but it can be frustrating.

    I picked up some hollow points made in Portugal that I like.
     
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    If you reload by converting .223 cases to 7.62x25, you can address the powder charge, primer issue and especially the "click bang, click click bang, click click click bang" issues ;):D - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=8496129#post8496129
     
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    Oh. So we are posting pics now? I see how it is. This bad boy cost $99 way back in like '95

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  9. grimjaw

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    CZ52: interesting idea and look. I've owned two.

    I had nothing but feed issues out of both. I blamed the magazines, but it seems common to find crappy magazines for them. For me, the ergonomics were horrible. The gun was more useful as a bludgeoning device than as a pistol. I don't need to go into the issues about firing pins and decocking.

    The Tokarev TT33 was more practical and concealable. The only reason the CZ52 should command a price above $100 in today's market is rarity.

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    Indeed. Having went this route though I will say that the .223 case isn't quite as wide as the original 7.62x25 case. Reloading this way produces bulged cases, so I tend to prefer to use 7.62x25 Starline brass.

    If that ever dries up 9mm Winchester Magnum brass can also be cut down and used and is dimensionally better than .223.

    Heck I've even HEARD of someone successfully converting .38 Special cases by turning down the rim and somehow forming an extractor groove, but that's beyond my skill level :).
     
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    I had one, couldn't wait to get rid of it. Probably the worst gun i've owned to date. Ironically my 75 was one of the best, go figure.
     
  12. Ash

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    There is no irony, since the CZ-52 was made at the Strakonice plant whereas the 75 was designed by CZ-UB, a different plant and organization (that was folded into Agrozet and then privatized). The CZ-52 was not made by the same folks as the 75. Indeed, neither was actually called CZ until well-later. Both were actually referred to as Vzor 52 and Vzor 75, or Vz 52 and Vz 75 (Vzor being the Czech word for Model). CZ 52 is an American term.

    As for me, mine still uses the same firing pin it had when it was new (don't dry fire many 22's either) and the decocker works just fine.
     
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    I had one. Interesting pistol. I wanted to like it as I like a lot of Combloc stuff. However, I didn't like the grip angle, ergonomics, or shooting characteristics, even for just a range plinker. I sold it. No regrets.
     
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    I had a CZ52 until three weeks ago. It blew up. I am heartbroken. Nice to see some folks still using my conversion tutorial for .223 brass...

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    I've had one for decades. Several thousand rounds worth of ammo have gone through it, without any failures. Mine was part of a recall shortly after I got it, where they reworked the decocker function.

    Everything has worked as designed for the past 20+ years. I have large hands, and the gun points well for me.

    FYI Provo Partizan, and Wolf Gold ( which, I believe is manufactured at Privi) both offer a JHP for the gun s in 7.62x25. It's also non-corrosive primed.
     
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