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CZ 75 Compact vs. P-01 (opinion needed)

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Torokun, Jul 8, 2008.

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  1. PCRCCW

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    Well Ive had over 35 CZ's over the years and the Compacts (all of them) have been my favorites.

    As far as the alloy frame ever getting worn out....Ive had 4 pcr's over the years and put 10's of thousands of rounds through them and never even had them loosen up, let alone wear out.

    Your choice comes down to whether you want a rail or not, or a safety or decocker. Once you figure those out, then your set........

    As far as carrying it or shooting it.......you cant go wrong either way.

    Personally Ill take a PCR over either one........but thats just me.

    Shoot well and god bless
     
  2. Pilot

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    Another vote for the CZ-75D PCR. Its a compact but with a lightweight alloy frame. It doesn't have the goofy light rail either so its better for carry.
     
  3. FEG

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    It is ridiculously easy. I find it easier than manually decocking a 1911, for example.

    Decocking a pistol is a basic gun handling skill, IMHO. People that claim that it is inherently dangerous scare the dog doo out of me. I just hope they never try to shoot a revolver in my vicinity. They make it sound like if anyone ever accidentally cocks the hammer on a DA revolver, it must be time to call out the bomb disposal squad.

    Also, how often do you need to do it in a day? I figure once in the morning, tops. You sure won't be doing it after a tactical reload, right?

    For me, it is entirely a negative difference for the reasons I discuss here and above.

    Safety concerns that are largely invalid. Also, a manual safety is redundant with some systems. I wouldn't want one on a DAO pocket pistol, for example.

    IMHO, No. The decocking lever does something for me that I should be able to do for myself (lower the hammer). A manual safety does something that I cannot do for myself (lock the pistol in battery).

    I hate decockers. OTOH, I reload my own ammunition, drive a manual transmission, and roll my own cigarettes. I think I may suffer from premature crotchetiness.
     
  4. Torokun

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    I do have a small hand and not much hand strength either. So it is a very tempting option.

    I do understand that generally speaking, I have to be trained to manually decock the hammer as well. I just wanted to know if 75 Compact's manual decocking is easier than other guns so this would be less of an issue.

    I am hoping my main usage of this gun would be at the shooting range. I hope I will never have to use it to defend my home (even though that's the main purpose to purchase the gun).

    Do you leave your gun cocked every night?
     
  5. FEG

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    You wouldn't need to do that with a CZ*, because you can manually decock the weapon and use the DA feature.

    * They do make a CZ 75B SA.

    Let's put it this way. If I carry in Condition One, I basically never have to decock the loaded weapon. If I want to make the gun safe, I can just remove the magazine, rack the slide to clear the chamber, and decock on an empty chamber. If I'm not going to use the DA feature, why lower the hammer?

    If I carry in Condition Two, I shouldn't need to decock the pistol very often. I used to check them in the morning, chamber a fresh first cartridge, manually decock, and be on my way. Unless you constantly play with the pistol over the course of a day, you won't be handling it again until night time. Theoretically, you could just press check the pistol every morning and never chamber another round until the next range session.

    That is what really confuses me about the people who act as if manually decocking a weapon is some sort of sign of a death wish. How often are they doing it anyway?
     
  6. NG VI

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    It isn't hard at all for me to manually decock my 97B hammer, I imagine they must be pretty similiar.

    I love my PCR, but I have read that the decocker versions tend to have more gritty triggers than the standard manual safety versions, and compared to my 97B, this is definitely true. If I dry fire the life out of it will the trigger get any smoother? Also, what tools would I need to replace the mainspring with a slightly lighter one?
     
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    I have a P-01, a PCR, and a CZ75 Compact. They are all great pistols, but I tend to favor the Compact the most. The extra weight makes +P ammo more comfortable to shoot.
     
  9. Treo

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    I Decock my Z once a week after I clean it and reload. As I mentioned earlier I simply place a small screwdriver through the hammer ring, grasp it W/ my index & middle fingers on either side of the hammer & use it as a T handle to lower the hammer into the half cock position. Even that is way more than I need to do for safety, but it virtually eliminates the possiblity of an AD.
     
  10. borntwice

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    I believe that the decocker version of the CZ pistols is the safest way to go. I have a P-01 with a decocker, and feel completely safe, with an appropriate holster that completely covers the trigger.
     
  11. armabill

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    If you carry the gun next to your skin, as in hot climates, the salt and oils from your skin will attack the aluminum frame.

    I had a gun frame wear this way so I switched to a polymer frame. I now carry the CZ 2075 Rami P with the stainless slide.
     
  12. MJZZZ

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    I have both the Compact in satin nickle and a blue P-01. I have had surgery on my left wrist and find it very difficult to rack the slide on the Compact as the serrations are slick and not very deep. The serrations on the P-01 are deeper and thus a lot easier for me to grip. Both guns are mechanically perfect and accurate, but I have considered selling the Compact because it is heavier and I will never carry it as I thought I would. Right now it has a Kadet slide on it for me and the kids to plink .22's so it still sees considerable range time. Mike
     
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    I have the 75 Compact D PCR for my carry gun, it is a great piece, I love the de-cocker, I also have a 75 B SS, they are both super firearms in my opinion.
    Floydster
     
  14. peteinct

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    I own a P-01 and have other CZs. I should have bought the 75 compact because I prefer it to the decocker. Manually lowering the hammer is not difficult, you just have to be carefull. My P-o1 looks sweet and shoots well so my preference is just a matter of taste.
    pete
     
  15. Torokun

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    Treo/ Thanks for your manually decocking tip.

    I don't intend to train myself to rely on the safety feature of the gun for safety. However, with that said, the reason why safety is such a big concern in my list are...

    1. Since I am a beginner, I do not know if it's better to first train with manual safety or get used to my first hand gun with other safety features as decockers.

    2. If (God forbid...) my kids somehow get to my pistol, which would I want more as the safety feature?

    I am pretty much decided to go with 75 Compact at this point.
     
  16. borntwice

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    Torokun, the best way to keep your kids from getting their hands on your pistol is to carry it at all times (except when sleeping) on your body, whether IWB or OWB.

    If you need to store the pistol, and don't have a safe, a simple handgun lock (a plastic covered piece of metal cord threaded through the action and/or barrel to prevent the possibility of loading and/or firing the pistol) is a good way to go.

    In any case, there are many options to keep your pistol in a manner that is safe from your children. There are simple lock boxes that use a combination of buttons to open them, that can hold a pistol.
     
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