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CZ 75b or 1911?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by GarMan, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. GarMan

    GarMan New Member

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    Hey! I am looking into getting my first handgun. Been doing some research, and I have boiled it down to either a CZ 75b or a 1911. Now, I know they are a ton of copies of the 1911 out there, and this is where I am getting confused. I am looking for a decent one, but I don't want to spend an arm and a leg for one. So, I may need some suggestions in this area.

    What would I be using one for? Home defense, target practice, and killing hogs when walking around on my friend's ranch.

    I like shooting the .45 though, and have shot my friend's Kimber. I also dig my other friend's Hi Power 9mm. So, you can see why I am looking for either the CZ 75B or a 1911.

    Some pros and cons would be great. I have read a ton of great reviews on the 75B as far as bang for the buck is concerned.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. txhoghunter

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    Whichever you choose....please don't go hog hunting with it.....you need a little more firepower. It's one thing to put the animal out of its misery with a .45 ACP, but I would NEVER shoot a wild pig that has not already been put on the ground with one. Chances are, an immediately incapacitating shot will not be made, and YOU will be the one on the ground bleeding to death, not the pig.

    But for the other two applications, get a 1911, I would say a Springfield Armory
     
  3. 2wheels

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    It's really all on what you prefer/shoot best. But I vote 1911, cause that's what I love.

    The 9mm CZ will be cheaper to feed, though you can easily find 9mm 1911s.

    As for WHICH 1911, I like Colts and Springfields but it really depends on your budget. There are a ton of 1911 makers out there.
     
  4. KodiakBeer

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    I would also recommend a larger caliber to hunt with. Can a .45 ACP kill hogs? Sure but, it is not ideal. 9mm would even be less recommended to hunt with.

    I would look into Revolver calibers to hunt with. .41 Mag, .44 Mag, to start.

    As stated above if you putting down a already downed animal then a 9mm or .45 would do the trick but not for killing cleanly on the first shot.
     
  6. rbernie

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    I have both. I prefer the CZ, but that's a personal preference.

    The CZ certainly has the advantage of economy, both in terms of the pistol and in terms of the cost of ammo.
     
  7. towboat_er

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    I'd consider a 357, 44mag, or 45colt
     
  8. GarMan

    GarMan New Member

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    OK. I shall rephrase, as far as hog hunting is concerned I will be carrying a 30-30 with me. The pistol will be back-up, but now that I think about it. Maybe, I should should look into a good six shooter?! Dang. Decisions.
     
  9. seed

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    CZ if you want a 9mm...1911 if you want a .45. Neither for hog hunting. That said, you probably will eventually get the one you didn't purchase to fulfill your caliber desires down the road. Each of these choices is fantastic for their respective original calibers and both types can be had in other calibers as well if you find yourself preferring one as a platform.

    Or get a 10mm...
     
  10. bill97222

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    Ya Can't Go Wrong

    I predict that you will soon prove that you can't go wrong... you'll buy one... then relatively shortly thereafter, you'll buy the other... and you'll really like them both. :)

    That's how these questions work themselves out in my life anyways.

    I have two 45's, both made in the Philippines, a Citadel full size and a Rock Island 3-1/2" along with a CZ 75b.

    I won't try to talk you out of buying a more expensive 1911, but if a Phillipine gun fits your budget, don't hesitate to pick one up. They are good guns for the money and you'll find plenty of testimony to that effect wherever you look on the net.

    The 75b and a 1911 are quite comparable arms... Mine cost roughly the same, feel about the same in your hand and all 3 of my guns are accurate, functional weapons.

    I shoot my full sized 45 most... I just like the feel of a 45 cartridge heading downrange.

    The biggest difference between the 75b and the 45's is that it holds 15+1, so if capacity is a major consideration, it's the clear favorite.

    I bought the compact 45 as a carry gun and wouldn't recommend it as a frequent shooter. They recommend that you replace the recoil springs every 300 shots in the downsized 45's.
     
  11. Japle

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    I went hog hunting with a buddy a few months ago.

    I shot my hog with a .44 Special using CorBon JHPs and it expired quickly from two fast DA shots through the shoulders.

    My buddy was using a 1911 with WalMart FMJ ammo. He shot his hog (130 lbs) 11 times before it went down to stay. I'm glad it wasn't chasing me all that time!!

    That same 1911 loaded with premium JHP ammo would have done the job with one or two shots. Ammo selection is much more important than caliber.

    If you get a CZ, go for the Single Action model. I have one and would be happy to hunt hogs with it if I could pick the ammo.

    [​IMG]
     
  12. KodiakBeer

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    I'm really liking that! It's obvious that they copied the Garthwaite BHP straight trigger design. How is that trigger? Weight? Take up? Crisp? Please tell - heck, start a thread because I'm really curious about these.
     
  13. txhoghunter

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    It is people like this that give hunters (and gun people by association) a bad reputation. Can we not just get a gun adequate for the game we are hunting??

    sorry, not gonna hijack, just going to start a new thread....
     
  14. railroader

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    I'll second the 75sa. The grip is nicer on it than on the standard 75b and since you're deciding between a 1911 and a cz the trigger action is similar.
     
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  15. JTQ

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    The CZ75 feels very good in the hand, but I prefer the 1911 for the controls. The CZ trigger reach in double action is pretty long for me. The thumb safety is not as easy to manipulate or as positive as the 1911 thumb safety.

    I agree with Japle and KodiakBeer, the CZ75B S/A would be my choice if I wanted a CZ. The trigger reach is shorter, the thumb safety is a better design and the beavertail would allow a higher grip.
     
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  16. jeepguy

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    i have a kimber ss pro carry and love it, i also have a cz75b compact and love it. my friend at work went shooting twice and bought a 1911 and now he wants a 9mm which will probably a cz 75b. i think they are both great.
     
  17. schmeky

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    I agree with the consensus of replies. You won't go wrong with a good 1911 or a CZ-75. I wouldn't really hunt hogs with a 9mm, but those +P+ 9's are pretty impressive and the CZ can handle these all day long. As a 30-30 back-up it would be OK.

    Lastly, you can shoot 45 Super in a 1911 with the proper recoil spring, which I would feel confident with hunting hogs.
     
  18. 1SOW

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    You're basically talking about two very different guns.

    As a first handgun, I suspect you may want to shoot it ---a lot. If money is no object, we're celebrating the 100th anniversary of what has evolved into a truly great handgun and caliber-- the 45acp.

    Check Wally World ammo prices for 45acp and Win 9mm 100rd Value-Pack. (I just mentioned a convenient available reference source---other places and manufacturers may offer similar or even slightly cheaper ammo---but the point is the same---45 acp commercial ammo is WAAY more expensive than 9mm)

    If you expect to shoot regularly and enough to learn how to do it well, factor in ammo cost for your decision.
     
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    Oh let's just face it - you won't be happy until you own both the auto's and the wheel gun - they are all good ideas. Love shooting my CZ75 but want a 1911 and a wheel gun - won't be happy till I have them. If You are going wheel gun - Maybe a .357/38 would make sense - you can certainly hunt with that and shoot lighter/cheaper loads for plinking.
     
  20. Smaug

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    Get a .22 first, so you don't go broke on ammo.

    THEN get the 1911.

    If you're dead set and wealthy enough to shoot centerfire regularly, (I know I wasn't when I bought my first handgun) this is the 100 year anniversary of the 1911.

    CZs will be around next year, and so will 1911s, but it just won't be the same. :cool:

    Start with a Ruger 22/45, 5-1/2" bull barrel. You'll be surprised at how much fun they are and how easy they are to shoot accurately.
     
  21. Ohio Gun Guy

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    I had the same choice, got the CZ. I've shot 1911s but liked the higher capacity of the 9mm and the CZs are accurate.

    This is the classic decision between .45 and 9mm and 2 of the better / best choices for a full size steel pistol for each. I really dont think you'll make a bad decision between the 2.
     
  22. Japle

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    My CZ 75 SA isn’t what you’d call an out-of-the-box pistol. It was tricked out for one of the top CZ shooters and the trigger group, including the trigger itself, is aftermarket. The pull on this gun is right on two lbs and super crisp. The rear sight is the factory fixed target sight, slightly reduced in height for the FO front sight.

    I bought the grips for about $15 on eBay and trimmed them down to the size I wanted, then finished with AlumaHide II from Brownells.
     
  23. Ben86

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    If you want to use it to kill hogs get the .45 1911. 9mm is not really a caliber for hog hunting, if you get some really hot ammo maybe, but .45 is better suited IMO. Otherwise both would fit the bill. Both are fantastic guns, some of the best ever made. I have a CZ-75B and fully plan to get a 1911 soon.
     
  24. GarMan

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    You are probably right jbr!
     
  25. TonyT

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    GarMan,
    I would not hunt wild hogs with either a 9mm or 45ACP. For the other purposes you mentioned I would opt for the CZ-75B - it is totally reliable and the ammo is much less expensive than a 45ACP. You would spend a lot more for a 1911 to onbtain the same quality and reliability as the CZ-75B.
    PS: I own and shoot both CZ-75's and 1911 in several calibers.
     

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