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CZ rifles - opinions

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by bender, Sep 21, 2006.

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  1. bender

    bender Member

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    I've never owned anything by CZ, but I know they are a well thought of company. I'm in the market for a 452 Scout for my son, and a 527 Carbine for me.

    On the cz discussion board, there are a few threads about "sloppy bolts", "feeding probs", and such. For example, some people say that you have to cycle the bolt just so... so it goes straight. And some people say that its hard to feed... as in bullets and/or cases being scratched by rough edges somewhere...

    Just wondering if these are "imaginary" problems, or not? Or maybe they were problems in the past but not anymore (some thread were dated 2002).

    Was looking for opinions and comments on CZ in general... as in "value for the money"...

    thanks!
     
  2. BrainOnSigs

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    Best purchase I have ever made in a rifle (except for my high end Coopers).

    No issues unless you consider a rifle with zero feed issues that makes one ragged hole while shooting an issue.

    My CZ452 Varmint:
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    My 8 year old son's CZ452 Scout:
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  3. 96Eunos

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    CZ rifles

    In my opinion as the owner and shooter of a 452 Lux and a Scout, there is no better value for money in a bolt action rimfire rifle. I also have 3 CZ handguns and a Kadet kit for the 75b. I have never had a misfire, failure to feed or eject or have anything break.

    I can't imagine that their centerfire rifles are any less reliable or well made.

    Find the ammo they prefer and you will have a firearm you can shoot for life.

    I also own and shoot other firearms, but CZ's always go to the range.

    Be Safe

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  4. El Tejon

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    Purchased a CZ 452 Scout for my oldest nephew, age 8, on the recommendation of THR members. The rifle was a HUGE success!:)

    He has five magazines for it (one is a 10 round) and he is getting very adept at properly running the bolt (keeping it on his shoulder and using his thumb and forefinger correctly). The Scout is a wonderful choice!

    The bolt was a little stiff. We ran some finishing cloth over it and with a couple hundred rounds, the bolt is now like butter.

    As well, the weapon has no sling posts! My brother remedied that.:D
     
  5. hessy

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    CZs are excellent!! I have had a number of CZ products and still have a 453 American 22LR rifle, 3 pistols and a Kadet kit. All their products are well-made, reliable, excellent value. My 453American shoots as accurately as other guys Anschutz. CZ rimfire rifles are the best!!
     
  6. bender

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    I haven't seen any CZ rifles "in person". The gunshop I will probably buy from will have to order it, sight unseen.
     
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    A buddy of mine has a CZ rifle and we have several CZ pistols between us. All are excellent. In the unlikely event you get a lemon, CZ-USA stands behind their products and will gladly make it right or replace it.
     
  8. jame

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    I just purchased a 527 American in .223, and so far it's GREAT.

    I may be still "honeymooning", but with that set trigger and a halfway cecent scope, I shot 7/8" at 100 yards, and that was at sight in! With WWB (Winchester White Box), yet! That good? First time out? With cheap ammo?

    Wasn't me........I have to credit the rifle.
     
  9. bender

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    maybe I can find a local store that carries them. maybe Academy or Sportsman's Warehouse...

    Maybe a full retail (or higher :cuss: ) shop around here carries them. But I feel bad about going to full retail shops to handle guns, then ordering them from someone cheaper :evil:
     
  10. jame

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    If it's any help, I found mine at Sportsman's Warehouse for around $480.

    Don't buy rings! They were included with mine.
     
  11. robctwo

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    Just bought the 527 Varmint .204 Ruger from Sportsman's Warehouse for $479. Rings not included, and the Warne mediums they sold me are too low, bolt hits eye piece on the Leupold 3x9x40
     
  12. Mauser12

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    I have four CZs, two 527s,(one varmit) and two 550s. All four have been good rifles. The one thing that I like the most about the CZs are the triggers. The accuracy of all four is on par with any other good brand. The stock wood on some of them leaves a little to be desired but refinishing makes them look presentable. Rings come with the 550s but not the 527s. I swapped out the stock rings on my 7X64 FS for Warnes to get the scope lower on the rifle. Stock CZ rings look as if they are machined from a Mack truck brake drum; functional and strong but not great looking. I have taken Elk and Hogs with the 550s and a helish lot of targets with the other two. If I were purchasing a rifle today, (can't, I did that last week) I would consider a CZ.
     
  13. JCF

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    My 14 year old son has the American in a synthetic stock and factory nickel finish. It is an absolute tack driver. Best value in a .22 available IMHO.
     
  14. bender

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    yeah, about the rings... I've read that you should use the CZ rings because of the possibility of the bolt handle hitting if you use lower rings.
     
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    they are the best rifles i have ever owned. i have 2 527's , one in 223 and one in 762 russian. here is my 223 and what it can do at 100 yds.
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  16. Danny Creasy

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    bender, I have five CZ .22s and love em but ..........

    they are not perfect. The bolts can bind in the action if you are not careful. A friend solves this problem by coating the action and bolt with JB Bore Cleaner (an abrasive) and working the action for a while. Then he hozes it down with break cleaner. I prefer to just lube all the contact points and break em in with use. A couple have been worse than the my others and two were virtually bind free. Ironically one of the smoothest is my econo-grade Model 513 Basic.

    They all shoot well. But, one of the surprises is this handsome 452 FS with its liking of 79 cent a box CCI Blazer:

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    I've got a 550 in 6.5x55. My next centerfire bolt action will probably be a lefty 550 (supposedly coming out next year) for my wife in either .243 or 6.5x55. Centerfire bolt action after that will likely be another 550 in 9.3x62mm that will become my dedicated elk/moose rifle and the 6.5mm will be the dedicated deer/antelope and backup elk rifle.

    I'm drooling over a 453 for a rimfire for myself. If finances allow for such a nice gun, my kids will get 452's when the time comes.

    For all that, I'm not that enamoured with the CZ pistols. I've only shot one, and not much at that, but my love goes to Sig for handguns. Maybe I should just try a few more CZ pistols.
     
  18. Ol` Joe

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    I agree the 452FS shoot well. Mine is a 17HMR the target in this pic was shot at 100 yds and is common if the wind isn`t heavy. It ran ~0.90", the squares are 1". The CZs are very nice for the money, I`m more then pleased with mine.

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  19. crackerjack

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    Have a 527 Lux in 22 hornet it is quite a pleasurable shooter and great value rifle. So far as bolt bind ther are a lot of bolt action rifles that will bind if pressure is applied from wrong direction, one needs to learn to operate it correctly . The set trigger on some models is a nice feature . Clips can sometimes require teaking on any clip feed gun. My experience is CZ stands behind their guns well. Mine has proven to be a excellent value and I own many different brand rifles . I have no association with CZ other than a satisified customer and would not hesitate to buy another.
    Hope it helps
     
  20. bender

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    ok thanks. I didn't know SW carried them.

    But then, I've never made it to the gun counter in all the times I've been there, too crowded...

    I'll go to SW tonight to try to see some CZ rifles. Maybe if I go right before closing they won't be as crowded...
     
  21. Cato the Younger

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    My brother has a CZ 550 American 30-06

    And he loves it! We have gone out and shot it togeather, and it really is a great gun. Now, this is our first non-milsurp rifle, so maybe we don't have alot of comparison, but we both feel it was a great deal- around $550 w/ tax.
    I think CZ offers great value.
     
  22. bender

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    ha ha, yeah, I'm the same way. All my rifles are antiques or milsurps. I have never owned a nice, modern rifle...
     
  23. Detritus

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    Anyone know if anyone makes Apperture (peep) sights for CZ's rimfire rifles??

    Been looking for a good iron-sighted .22 and recently found a CZ 452 that i liked (looked like a variation of the LUX model), but i prefer peep sights (specificly receiver mounted types) over the tangent type that come standard on 452s with sights.

    anyone appreciated :)
     
  24. Selfdfenz

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    I would recommend doing a search here but if you search the posts over on rimfirecentral you may get some additional info. I seem to recall a post one place or the other where a member rigged up a set of peeps on his daughters Scout.
     
  25. Detritus

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    was over on RFC imeadiately after my post (great minds think alike, maybe? :) ) info over there mainly points toward either the Williams sight that is supposed to hit the market this coming january, or to the using adapters to mount a BRNO peep + globe front on a scout or Trainer.

    after browsing and thinking on it. I was thinking more along the lines of teh lyman sight i had on the Marlin 39M i used to own, ie a receiver sight that was elevation and windage adjustable that used the existing front sight, and wasn't way over the boreline (like the BRNO units are). for the use i personally had for a peep sighted .22, if i had to go with a globe front sight i'd probably just get a Savage MkI or MkII FVT.
    But if i get the chance i might just get both, b/c i know the savage will do well for what i want and i just plain like the looks of the CZ 452 "Super exclusive" model
     
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