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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by buddyd157, Mar 8, 2020.

  1. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Member

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    ok, did a search, did not find anything

    regarding the CZ 75 B. my new one has the polymer grips. but, i cannot release the magazine as easily as on my Glock 17, as my had might be a bit smaller OR the width of the polymer grips might be a tad too wide?

    so, if i were to change over to rubber grips, and i saw a rubber pair that have an "indentation" near the mag release, which "might" allow me easier mag release, can i still use the factory screws, or must i buy new screws?

    one set i saw, form the CZ website in fact, made it known, "no screws included".

    so i was wondering if new screws are needed, over the factory ones.

    again, thanks in advance!

    buddyd
     
  2. larryh1108

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    Your screws should fit. They are made for your gun. If the happen to be too long because the grips are thinner, you can buy tiny rubber washers to make them work or you can file down your screws a thread at a time.
     
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  3. rayatphonix

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    I’ve switched from the plastic to rubber on several CZs. No problems with or modification to the screws.
     
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  4. JDR

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    I have the rubber grips on my 75B & the stock screws work fine.
     
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  5. lsudave

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    CZ factory rubber grips are fantastic. Identical ergodynamics to the plastic, but way more comfortable.

    They're on the gun in my avatar
     
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    The rubber grips are great, but won't help reach the mag release. An extended release will help, or thinner G10 grips.
     
  7. bikerdoc

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    Like has been said, original screws worked well on mine
     
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  8. buddyd157

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    ok, right now, my thumb barely reaches the release. now i have to wonder if the rubber will be any better. what i have to do now is, sorts let go of the grip a bit and slightly turn the pistol in my palm to hit the release button.

    another alternative of course, is to just use my left hand to release.
     
  9. JTQ

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    Managing expectations.

    Chances are good, the vast majority of people need to rotate the pistol in their hand to hit the mag release. There is nothing wrong with you or your gun if you need to rotate the gun in your hand to hit the mag release.

    Shannon Smith on mag changes, beginning at about the 2:00 mark on releasing the mag - "There is basically no gun on the planet that I can reach the mag release on without shifting the gun in my hand." He calls it the flip, and most of us do this.

     
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    Doug Koenig at about the 1:08 mark

     
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  11. needmorecowbell

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    This. The grips probably won’t make the difference. May I suggest though the CZC thin aluminum ones:
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  12. ATLDave

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    Some people have to "flip" basically all guns. No sense worrying about it, just get good at the flip.

    Some people have orangutan thumbs and can hit the mag release on basically all guns. No sense learning to flip, just mash the mag release.

    Some of us have hand sizes and thumb grips where some guns can be reloaded without a flip, and some cannot. For us, a change in grip panels can be the difference between a flip and a no-flip. The factory wooden grips on my Tanfoglios are too fat for me to reliably get the mag released without a flip. If I put thinner aluminum grips on, I never have to flip.

    I spend the money on the aluminum grips and never flip. If that's an option, it's worth it unless you've already ingrained a flip so strongly that you're going to flip on every reload regardless.
     
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  13. Terry G

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    I switched the aluminum grips for rubber grips from CZ. Same screws, no hassle. A 97b.
     
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  14. buddyd157

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    YES....!! that is exactly what i have to do with the CZ, but the glock, my thumb reaches the release...THANKS!
     
  15. JTQ

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    If my pistols had no grips on them (I don't own any polymer pistols), I'd still need to adjust my grip to hit the mag release.

    For the OP - Look at your inability to hit the mag release (or slide release) with your right hand while in a shooting grip as a feature. It keeps you from fouling the gun while shooting. If your right hand thumb can't reach the mag release while you have a shooting grip you can't inadvertently drop a mag.

    Chances are good, you can't reach the slide release on your CZ 75B with your right hand thumb either. That's also a feature, that keeps you from locking the slide back with rounds in the mag, or not locking the slide back when the mag runs empty. It's all a matter of perspective.
     
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  16. ATLDave

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    Understood. You're definitely in that first group. No sense trying to reduce the reach - being 1/4" short isn't any better than being 3/8" short of reaching it.

    A lot of us are borderline - can reach reliably with some gun/grip combos, but not with others. For us, switching grips can be hugely beneficial.

    Good gracious, if someone is fouling the mag release with their strong-hand thumb while shooting, there's something wrong with their grip!
     
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    Some years ago I only shot full size, steel guns (mainly 1911s). I purchased a Kahr PM9 for concealed carry. I loved that gun. It ran 100% and I learned to shoot it very accurately for being such a small gun. However, I decided to sell it because my "usual" grip caused my thumb to hit the mag release, on occasion, during recoil. When I was practicing at the range, I changed my grip enough to not hit the release but when I picked it up for a new session and didn't think about the modified grip
    (i.e. my natural grip) I would hit the mag release on recoil and drop the mag. I realized that I could not use the PM9 for carry since it could/would fail me in a high stress situation (modified grip needed). I contemplated filing down the release button but I could never trust it. I loved that gun but I just had to sell it.
     
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  18. ATLDave

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    I don't fool with guns that small. I have no idea how anyone grips them. Literally, I have no idea what a good grip on a pocket gun is. I have no opinion.
     
  19. buddyd157

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    i went to the gun dealer where i got the CZ from last friday. i wanted the rubber grips, and the guy told me, i'd be better off just getting them from CZ instead of at the store. so for about $38.00 i am getting OEM CZ rubber grips.

    but while there, i could not resist in buying up a case of 9MM Sellier & Bellot 124 gr. for under $200. (nearly same price if i got it at an online site i got my Blazer's from.)

    and i really do appreciate all the responses, thanks again!
     
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  21. lsudave

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    CZ OEM rubber grips are great, better than any aftermarket IMO. They completely mimic the stock plastic in shape.

    That's a good price for S&B, it's my preferred ammo.
     
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  22. buddyd157

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    yeah, i have already noticed, that with Federal ammo, i see way too many sparks. i have used S&B a few times, and i do not see sparks, or if there are some, they must be way smaller than the Federal.
     
  23. Walt Sherrill

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    Using your left hand isn't really a bad solution. You can keep the gun up in front of your eyes and on target, you don't have to adjust your grip. Then as you slam the mag home, you just twist that hand slightly and use several fingers to press the slide stop/release lever. (Several fingers means you have less of a chance of missing the lever.)

    I haven't shot competitively for a number of years now, but found that my times and scores were not really affected by this technique when I switched to that method. It's quicker than the older "sling shot" because you don't have to move the gun itself that much.

    Others simply use the "hand over" release, keeping the gun up high for the mag insertion, and then once it's inserted they just push the slide back forcefully to release it.

    Changing your grip will sometimes screw things up.
     
  24. ATLDave

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    I think he's talking about the mag release, not the slide release. You are, of course, correct that loading from slide-lock is materially and reliably faster when done using the slide release lever rather than any direct manipulation of the slide.
     
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  25. Walt Sherrill

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    Perhaps that was his intent, but I thought otherwise. Why? Because I've never had problems of reaching or pressing a mag release, but I have had a lot of problems reaching and releasing the slide stop/release, without changing my grip.

    For a number of years, the only gun I owned that let me easily release the slide without changing my grip was a Glock 34 (which had an extended release.) I later learned to use my OFF-HAND to release the slide.
     
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