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CZ v Glock: which is better in which aspect of use?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by el Godfather, Mar 10, 2015.

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  1. el Godfather

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    Dear THR:
    If you compare CZ to Glock line up, which is better in various aspects of use? For example, reliability, accuracy, duranility, self defense, home defense, sports, hunting, etc. One area where CZ seems to have advantage is sports with its Shadow line and definitely the Czechmate. Whereas for hunting I think Glock may have the edge with its Glock 20 in 10mm.

    What are your views?

    Thanks
     
  2. ritepath

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    Try and buy a 300 winchester magnum Glock then get back with us. They're also hard to Quail hunt with compared to CZ.

    Oh and I'm currently saving for a G40 to replace my G20 that I sold 4 years back, hopefully I'll pick it up before next season rolls around.
     
  3. VoodooMountain

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    They are both excellent platforms for everything you could ever realistically expect from a semi auto handgun. Pick that one that fits your hand better.
     
  4. JDR

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    Comparing my Gen3 17 to my CZ 75B;

    Reliability - Glock
    Accuracy - CZ
    Durability - Tossup
    Self Defense - Glock
    Home Defense - Tossup
    Sports (fun at the range) - CZ
    Hunting, etc. - N/A

    I Enjoy Both, and would recommend owning both to anybody!
     
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  5. JDGray

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    Lol ritepath, that was good!
    As far as handguns go, I'll take a cz any day over a Glock for accuracy, but for carry I'll take the Glock
     
  6. 777TRUTH

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    I own both and prefer CZ.

    Reliability has been equal in both platforms for me.
     
  7. golden

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    Which one?

    Godfather,

    You need to narrow down the parameters!

    If you are comparing the GLOCK 19 to the CZ 75, then the GLOCK is lighter, less likely to rust, has a simpler method of operation and in my opinion is safer. I have owned both.
    I formally owned a CZ 75 and thought it was a good gun overall, but it was heavier than the GLOCK 17 by half a pound and unless you buy the CZ 75 BD which is the DE-COCKER model, you have to carry the gun COCKED & LOCKED or manually lower the hammer after chambering a round.

    I consider that unsafe and do not carry COCKED & LOCKED anymore.

    So for me it is the GLOCK. If I found a CZ 75BD at a good price, I would consider it, but the GLOCK offers what I would want.

    Jim
     
  8. tipoc

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    Broad parameters, likely too broad.

    Keep in mind that CZ also produces the Dan Wesson line of 1911s which does include 10mm guns. Also includes guns in 38 Super which Glock does not do.

    CZ also has a line of long guns: shot guns, bolt action and semi-auto, so...

    tipoc
     
  9. Walt Sherrill

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    Folks who like Glocks seem to be comfortable with polymer frames and striker-fired weapons.

    Folks who like CZ often DON'T like polymer frames and striker-fired mechanisms.

    The new polymer-framed CZ (P-07/P-09) seem to be pretty good, and are proving to be quite durable.

    My CZs (I've had a bunch) and my Glocks (I've had a bunch) have ALL proved to be reliable/durable and accurate. While I've often done my best IDPA matches using a Glock 34, I prefer the CZs for playing at the range.

    I like both. And my favorite .45 is a Glock 38 (.45 GAP)... My favorite CZs aren't really CZs: one is a semi-custom AT-84s (originally built in Switzerland using Tanfoglio parts), and a Sphinx SDP. I recently picked up a CZ P-07 and I like it a lot, too -- marvelous trigger.

    You won't do badly is you pick either CZ or Glock; you might do better to get both. :D
     
  10. JR24

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    I replaced my Glock 19/23 with a CZ P-07. So that covers my opinion for anything related to self defense (though the Glocks are fantastic, don't get me wrong).

    I haven't yet had a chance to try a CZ 97, so I can't say that it is in any way comparable to my Glock 21 in terms of non-1911, full size .45 ACP. Though if Dan Wesson counts as CZ... well, that's got my vote.
     
  11. Thompsoncustom

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    I have a G17 and have a couple CZ's: rami,pcr,shadow.

    Both platforms work fine. To me the CZ is better in every way but weight.
     
  12. ritepath

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    I went to the local gunshow back in the fall to pick up a CZ75....after checking out the P-09 and 07 and several different 75 types I ended up springing for a FDE P-09.

    I couldn't be happier...I wanted a fullsized all steel 9, and ended up with another plastic 9.


    I still want a 75 (or 85) but I also love the 07's, but first I NEED a g40 before next hunting season.
     
  13. chicharrones

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    If we are comparing the metal framed CZs vs. Glocks, for ease of disassembly and repair, the Glock wins. For good old school design that fits my hand better and offers a great version of cocked and locked as well as decocker models, the CZ wins.

    IMO, of course. :)
     
  14. kokapelli

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    I have both and for carry Glock without hesitation. I also like the simplicity of the Glock over the CZ.

    At the range either one is fine.
     
  15. tarosean

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    Odd that for every one CZ I see in the competition arena I see 10 Glocks and 15 M&P's. Course I suspect that $$$$$ has the most to do with that.
    (plastic fantastics being the cheapest entry into sports IDPA/USPSA/IPSC)

    Then again why choose either or???

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  16. kokapelli

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    If I understand it right, all plastics are polymers, but not all polymers are plastics.
     
  17. AustinTX

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    That's true, as things like DNA and proteins are polymers, but all polymers used in guns are plastics, so "plastic" is the more precise term when referring to materials used in firearms. "Polymer" just sounds a lot better from a marketing perspective.
     
  18. ku4hx

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    I prefer to own both. Got Glock; just starting on CZ with the first being a CZ75B with rubber grips.

    Hate the little "extension" on the magazine's bottom plate to I bent it downward. Now my hand fits the grip like a hand should fit a grip. Sort of like the way a Gen2 Glock fits so many people so well.
     
  19. Shadow 7D

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    Not a Glock Fanboy
    they are what they are
    however, there's something about the metal and function of the CZ's, love them.
     
  20. bannockburn

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    I own both but prefer the ergonomics and design features of the CZ75 series over those of the Glock pistols.
     
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    I think it depends most on opinions on ergonomics and triggers/action

    My non-serious answer is one is a work of art, the other is a work of Tupperware.
     
  22. TestPilot

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    Glock will be easier to manipulate in every way no matter what the purpose.

    Glock will be easier to maintain no matter what the purpose.

    Except for subjective issues like "It fits my hand better," I can't think if anything objective a CZ does better.

    Perhaps may be with an exception like you want to shoot a 9mm from a heavier gun with a single action trigger that is.
     
  23. Onmilo

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    I have a CZ 83 in .32 acp.
    I consider the gun to be the absolute pinnacle of .32 acp pistol design.

    That said, I choose my Glock 26 9mm every time over the CZ for CCW

    The CZ handgun design is now in the realm of the 1911 and single action revolvers.
    Still useful but way past their prime.
     
  24. Walt Sherrill

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    The CZ-83 you mentioned has almost nothing in common with the CZ-75 vs. Glock comparison... And I'm pretty sure THAT is the comparison being made. The CZ-83 is a much different design created by different designers... the '83 is a blowback design and really can't handle 9mm or larger caliber rounds. The CZ-83 is arguably one of the best blowback service pistols ever made (not just the best .32 semi-auto) -- giving the original Makarov a run for it's money. Others can address THAT debate.

    The CZ design which isn't everyone's cup of tea, is only a year or two older than the Glock -- both were introduced in the mid 70's. The Glock is an elegantly simple design. Every time I work on one of mine, I'm amazed by the simplicity of the design, and how easily some parts of it can be tuned. I've even seen metal frames offered for sale -- probably for IPSC/USPSA competition.

    Much is made of the CZ's ergonomics: how it fits the hand. Ergonomically, a Glock could be adapted to be as "friendly" to the shooter's hand as the CZ, and the fourth generation guns with the adjustable grips are a step in that direction. The trigger pull of the Glock, while less crisp than the CZ, is also much shorter. (Trigger pull length being a major drawback of the CZ's DA/SA [or is that SA/DA] design.)

    SA/DA? The CZ was a also big departure from the standard designs of the time, too -- offering a SA start if you wanted it, plus DA functionality. In recent years -- CZ is just now really catching on here in the U.S., aftermarket parts are available to make the triggers truly outstanding, and the cost of these parts are reasonable. (Drop-in hammers and trigger-pull reduction kits change the very nature of the gun.)

    Had the CZ been designed in the West, this discussion might have taken a different course -- as for the first 10-15 years of the CZ's service life it was almost impossible to get one in the West. (Western nations embargoed most of Soviet Bloc exports.) The CZ designers really built a gun for export to the West -- it wasn't designed for military use. The Western embargo kept it from catching on until the fall of the Soviet Union (although Tanfoglio began making copies in the '80s.)

    The earliest CZs that came to the West (through Canada) were very expensive: $1000 or so in the mid '70s. Later, GIs serving in Germany could buy them through their base or post exchanges -- and when you find one without import marks, that's often how it got here. But CZs stayed RARE -- until Tanfoglio "borrowed" the design and started making clones that eventually subtly changed. (Tanfoglio no longer makes clones, but does make excellent CZ-pattern guns, as do a number of firms in Turkey. China makes them too, but we can't get them here in the U.S. from China.)

    Had the Communist nations been a bit more flexible with their licensing practices, CZ might have stayed in control of the CZ design. CZ did license the CZ design to a firm in Switzerland, and the original ITM AT-84 was a true CZ clone. At least one firm in Great Britain also built a true CZ clone. The later AT-84s, which is based on the Tanfoglio version of the design, is still a close copy, but no longer a true clone. That Swiss firm, ITM, went on through sales and mergers to become part of another firm that still makes CZ-pattern guns: Sphinx. Their guns have long been considered the best of the CZ "copies." My two best "CZs" -- a semi-custom AT-84s and a Sphinx SDP -- were both made in Switzerland.:D

    We hear a lot about the standard CZs but little is said about their IPSC and USPSA guns. These guns are far more costly and in effect, semi-custom/custom guns. The CZ Custom Shop builds comparable weapons, and Cajun Gun Works can, too. I'm not sure whether Glock has comparable guns from the factory, and I don't know of a Glock Custom Shop -- but after-market shops and parts suppliers give Glock shooters the ability to go that route should they choose to do so. (Remember the metal Glock frame.)
     
  25. Pilot

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    I have no Glocks, nor anymore polymer framed pistols, so keep that in mind. I think the complete CZ line of pistols, and rifles is one of the best firearms line available, only eclipsed MAYBE by Beretta due to their excellent shotguns.

    CZ offers all steel, aluminum framed AND polymer framed pistols, plus and excellent line of rifles, and decent shotguns, although I believe they are made in Turkey. Glock makes good pistols, and they are great tools, but their line of firearms only includes pistols.
     
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