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CZs and Gold Dots?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by cratz2, Apr 12, 2004.

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  1. cratz2

    cratz2 Member

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    I picked up the current Combat Handguns with the article on the CZ P01... they said that 124 Gr +P Gold Dots wouldn't even fit in the chamber because they were overly long??? Said they locked the gun up solid about 1/4" from full battery.

    I have noticed they are quite a bit longer than 115 Gr CorBons which seem to be about the shortest 9mms around but are the 124 Gold Dots that much bigger than average? They've been my preferred carry load for 9mms since I decided CorBon and Triton might not be the only two brands around and I've never had such a problem.

    The article said CZ knew about the issue and would fix the chamber for free but... seems like an ackward problem to begin with.

    Anyone had such a problem with any CZs?

    Any other 9mm from a major producer?
     
  2. tiberius

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    Mine (75B) handles the 124 GD's loaded by GA perfectly. I haven't tried them loaded by Speer, could be a different OAL.
     
  3. hansolo

    hansolo Member In Memoriam

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    I have an '03 full size 75B that has no problem with the Speer 124g Gold Dots. The only ammo finiky-ness is with aluminum Blazers.....it LOVES the new Brass Blazer.
     
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    My CZ-75B is the Turkish mil surplus model. The 124 gr. +p Gold Dots are my preferred carry load. I've tested them extensively and have had no problem. This gun feeds any cartridge I've used and shoots accurately with all of them.
     
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    Its a rumor that a couple of newer production CZ's have had "short chambers".....its very likely that this is the case if your gun wont chamber the dots. A 9mm JHP is just a 9mm JHP........they will either chamber or they wont. Ive yet to have a problem with 10+ 9mm CZ's and GD's.
    Shoot well.
     
  6. wingman

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    My cz75b has a 'tight chamber" some overly long or wide hp's won't lock up,
    however I believe this close tolerance chamber helps accuracy and I reload
    so I can set oal pretty much where I like, cz offered to "polish chamber" for
    me and I declined because the accuracy is super in this gun.

    As a side note as a reloader I find that much of the commerical ammo is
    longer then necessary,it may be due in part to liability reasons/pressure.

    Also many auto's are produced to shoot a certain brand ammo and may not
    work well with others.

    All cz's I believe are top quality guns at a fair price.
     
  7. Zak Smith

    Zak Smith Moderator Emeritus

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    I have had absolutely no problems with GD's (124's and 147's) in my CZ's (75BSA, 85 Combat, a couple of Compacts) seated out to 1.155", which is longer than any factory load.

    90gr Gold Dots had to be seated to 1.100" (approx) and Hornady XTP's had to be seated short. "Precision" coated bullets had to be seated short.

    West Coast plated were okay to 1.155"

    -z
     
  8. Marcus

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    My CZ-75B Mil. is loaded with 124gr.+P GDHP Speer ammo right now. It`s my prefered load for it and it works great. I can`t speak for the PO-1 though. Marcus
     
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    I can. I've run about 500 124gr +P Gold Dots through my P-01 without issue at all. It's my preferred load, also. It's on my nightstand along with an extra 14-round mag.

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  10. Stealthfixr

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    Gold Dots 124gr +p in my CZ 75BD work just fine--no problems at all. I also have Wolff extra power (+10%) mag springs and a Wolff 16lbs recoil spring--don't know if that makes any difference.
     
  11. cratz2

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    For those of you that haven't read the article, it said:

    "A call to CZ USA to discuss the matter followed, and I was told that there were some CZ 75s a while back that had the same problem, none have been reported with the P-01 as far as the rep knew, and CZ USA woulc correct the chambers on any P-01s with similar problems under warrantee. In fact, the suggestion was made to just send the offending barrel and one sample of the ammo it wouldn't feed (don't ship a live round in teh same comtainer with a fully operational gun, it violates Federal law) and the chamber will be lengthened accordingly."

    The article also mentioned that he checked the weight of the bullet to make sure it was 124 grains and not the longer 147 Gr bullet that might have snuck in somehow and it mentions that the writer also tried a round from another box of Speer Gold Dots and it had the same problem.

    Sounds to me like a number of barrels were made with a different or new reamer and the first few might not have been adjusted right... I don't know. I do know that I've shot many rounds of 124 Gr +P Gold Dots from Speer and Georgia Arms through every 9mm I've owned since probably 1997 - including a few CZs - and have never had a similar problem. I was just asking since I have a PCR en route and was wanting to find out if I could expect a similar problem with it.

    Thanks for the feedback.
     
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