Daisy Red Ryder Trigger mod?

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I grabbed a Daisy Red Ryder the other day. Wasn't there for it, but couldn't pass it up at $25.

Been a long time since I fired a BB gun...the trigger is awful! Anyone ever heard of doing a DIY trigger job on something like this?

Was thinking about using it as a training tool, but not with the rubbish trigger it has right now. Something light and crisp would be nice...and cheap. :D
 
Naw, keep it with the factory trigger...it will make you complain less about factory triggers of firearms.
 
I picked up 4 of them from Northern Tool a couple months ago for $11 each. At that price the trigger pull does not matter... Gave three of them as gifts today.

So far all eyes are intact :D
 
I bought one of those Chinese .177 900fps lever cocking guns at the gun show for $25 a few years back and reworked the trigger on that so it breaks like glass with VERY little pressure and NO take-up! It used a strange wedge/ramp affair instead of a sear but after some polishing it is amazing! Go for it! It is a great trainer.
 
It's kind of a moot point on a gravity-fed smoothbore spring-piston BB gun. I'd keep it heavy; it's actually possible for the gun to fire if you let the lever snap down part way through the cocking cycle.
 
Nostalgic marketing toy. Wasn't anything more originally either. Just like Roy Rogers cap guns and holsters.
"...using it as a training tool..." Training who?
 
Um, little kids before I start them on 22s. A bb gun would also be backyard fun where safe firearm use would be difficult. ;)

Wayne, I didn't realize there was a potential accidental discharge issue with the design. With a trigger like this though, I'll probably just start them on a 22. herohog, you got a link to the type of airgun you're referring to?
 
well, NOW, i think i have heard it all! LOL! on a red ryder, or anything similar, i dont think i would mess with it. if a little kid happens onto it, you want it the way it is. if you, as an adult, want a good bb gun, buy an adult gun.
 
Give it a couple of drops of oil, or a squirt of WD-40. That'll go a long way toward fixing it.

I had one that I kept in the rod locker on my bass boat for years. It was rusted, the finish on the stock was gone, but it would still shoot. It came in handy when the kids (or me for that matter) got bored and we had to repel "stick monsters" that got too close to the boat. :D
 
Shanghi China "Target" pellet gun trigger job.

Here is the detail of my .177 Shanghi China "Target" pellet gun trigger job...

The gun:
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The only markings are this "MADE INSHANGHI, CHINA" and the serial number on the left side of the breech:
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NOTE: That "hump" facing the top of the picture is what locks the piston in place when cocked. The trigger group is aligned as it is in the cocked position right now. You pull the trigger, it slides off the top lever and releases the piston:
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These are the areas I polished. BE VERY CAREFUL! If you change the angle itwill NOT stay cocked!
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PS: Getting that piece with the 2 springs in is a PAIN in the thumb! Taking it out, please note it is under a LOT of pressure and WILL depart the scene with great exuberance!
 
It's the easiest trigger job ever...<inside>

I do a trigger job on anything that has a trigger. The mechanism is kind of a pain to detail strip, and it requires removal of the mainspring. I did this anyway, because I wanted to polish the main tube, and spring, and tar it. The result is definitely a quiter gun with a little more solid feeling firing sequence. If you just want a lighter pull on your red ryder, just remove the screws securing the buttstock to the receiver and then take a good look inside at the trigger mechanism. Removing it offers little benefit because it is not really meant to be easily installed and does not offer much to improve upon as far as polishing or geometry. Trust me, I did polish everything and it felt no better than it would have after normal breakin ..(I've had a ton of these bb guns). What you can do though, is get some needle nose pliers or hemostats and pull out the large spring that is between the trigger and the trigger housing. It is the furthest spring back and is the only visible spring while looking through the reciever from the buttstock end. This will bring the pull down from 6 lbs to 2+, which is plenty light for plinking and light target shooting. And to anyone that doesn't feel that the red ryder is an adequate training tool, you must either not have owned one haven't given one a fair chance. It is the cheapest thing you can possibly shoot, is very quiet and quick and esy to cock. You can shoot it non stop for an hour and not have to reload. It will easily shoot into 1" at 15 meters with decent (but still cheap bb's). This is plenty good to learn the fundamentals of hold, breath control, trigger pull, the shooting positions....pretty much all the basics that go into shooting. It was the first rifle like weapon that many shooters learned on including myself. It is easily accurate enought to shoot ritz crackers out of the air at 10 meters, and low powered enough to do so safely in a large open area. Nothing ever taught me to take moving targets as proficiently as spending an afternoon in my grandfather's garden shooting carpenter bees out of the air. The fact that you can see the bb in good light also helps you visualize the trajectory and call the error of missed shots. It's like shooting a tracer every round. In fact, I just went out and shot my red ryder tonight in my back yard. It is still a blast to try to keep a can rolling at 10-20 meters. I certainly couldn't have gone outside at night, in the city I live in, and blasted away with any of my rimfires or centerfires. But with my red ryder I can shoot whenever I want. I do, however, do a trigger job and spring tune on any spring air gun, and all my red ryders have custom fabricated front sights, because the factory front sights don't allow for sighting in past 8-10 meters, and are too wide to make use of the surprisingly decent accuracy of these little plinkers. But, to the original poster, if the trigger and weapon just don't do it for you, get your kids a Daisy 952 and do the trigger job to it. The job is very simple, easily researched, and very effective.
 
It's the easiest trigger job ever...<inside>

I do a trigger job on anything that has a trigger. The mechanism is kind of a pain to detail strip, and it requires removal of the mainspring. I did this anyway, because I wanted to polish the main tube, and spring, and tar it. The result is definitely a quiter gun with a little more solid feeling firing sequence. If you just want a lighter pull on your red ryder, just remove the screws securing the buttstock to the receiver and then take a good look inside at the trigger mechanism. Removing it offers little benefit because it is not really meant to be easily installed and does not offer much to improve upon as far as polishing or geometry. Trust me, I did polish everything and it felt no better than it would have after normal breakin ..(I've had a ton of these bb guns). What you can do though, is get some needle nose pliers or hemostats and pull out the large spring that is between the trigger and the trigger housing. It is the furthest spring back and is the only visible spring while looking through the reciever from the buttstock end. This will bring the pull down from 6 lbs to 2+, which is plenty light for plinking and light target shooting. And to anyone that doesn't feel that the red ryder is an adequate training tool, you must either not have owned one haven't given one a fair chance. It is the cheapest thing you can possibly shoot, is very quiet and quick and esy to cock. You can shoot it non stop for an hour and not have to reload. It will easily shoot into 1" at 15 meters with decent (but still cheap bb's). This is plenty good to learn the fundamentals of hold, breath control, trigger pull, the shooting positions....pretty much all the basics that go into shooting. It was the first rifle like weapon that many shooters learned on including myself. It is easily accurate enought to shoot ritz crackers out of the air at 10 meters, and low powered enough to do so safely in a large open area. Nothing ever taught me to take moving targets as proficiently as spending an afternoon in my grandfather's garden shooting carpenter bees out of the air. The fact that you can see the bb in good light also helps you visualize the trajectory and call the error of missed shots. It's like shooting a tracer every round. In fact, I just went out and shot my red ryder tonight in my back yard. It is still a blast to try to keep a can rolling at 10-20 meters. I certainly couldn't have gone outside at night, in the city I live in, and blasted away with any of my rimfires or centerfires. But with my red ryder I can shoot whenever I want. I do, however, do a trigger job and spring tune on any spring air gun, and all my red ryders have custom fabricated front sights, because the factory front sights don't allow for sighting in past 8-10 meters, and are too wide to make use of the surprisingly decent accuracy of these little plinkers. But, to the original poster, if the trigger and weapon just don't do it for you, get your kids a Daisy 952 and do the trigger job to it. The job is very simple, easily researched, and very effective.
 
I was surprised on the dearth of content of the Daisy 952. :D

Old thread, this. As for what I ended up doing, there are two springs with the red rider. I'm rather uneducated in this sector, but there's a "main" one, then one that seemed to be there just so the trigger popped all the way forward to line up so the safely could be put on. All I did was stretch and clip the main and totally removed the 2nd spring so to engage the safety I have to pull the trigger forward.


Wow it had been a long time since I shot bb guns. It helped me relearn how to shoot a rifle.
 
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