Dangers of "Mexican Carry".

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I have tried the 'Shoestring' holster

That Phil_Ca describes upthread:cool: = Works!
Learned it from an ex-ONI type who called it the "OSS holster" said it was popular during the German occupation of Europe when not only a gun, but it's holster, could get you shot on the spot. Simple and keeps the pistol from dropping down your trousers at 'awkward' moments:what: Useful item to know about should the occasion ever arise:p Beats "Thunderwear" :neener: :neener: :what:
 
atlctyslkr said:
Most states have laws regarding "Mexican Carry". Pretty much say that gun must be secured in a holster of some sort. If someone sees you going Mexican they may assume you're not legal.
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I know of one such state (Georgia). Could you (or other members) tell us which the other 25 are?
 
One of my co-workers had his Kimber compact tattoo'd on his belly just like if he was carrying Mexican.

About the only "smart" way to do it far as I'm concerned. 'Course I'd never get a tattoo anyway - me and needles of any description don't get along.
 
Life might be risky. After all, no one here gets out alive. That being said, I've worked the emergency department for about a decade now. I've treated a number of people who've shot themselves with their own pistols while engaging in Mexican carry. I have yet to treat one person who has shot themselves with a holstered pistol. Or while drawing a holstered pistol. Or even while returning a pistol to a holster. I might just see a trend developing here....
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Something around 90% of people that Mexican carry are criminal or borderline criminal, and know nothing about guns. That's the main reason. If people shoot themselves with Lorcins more often than other pistols, is that the gun's fault? Especially with the million and a half safeties on them things...

Me, I use either a Ted Blocker holster when I'm wearing a belt, Jentra "Glok Klip" when no belt. Trigger has a 5 pound takeup and 7 pound break, not unlike a DA revolver with stacking. I've tried purposely pulling the trigger through pants with an empty gun, and the only way to do so is to take the pants off first. Not enough slack otherwise. Since it's behind the hip no matter which mode of carry, I'm really not worried about the trigger "snagging" on anything either.
 
"Something around 90% of people that Mexican carry are criminal or borderline criminal, and know nothing about guns. That's the main reason. If people shoot themselves with Lorcins more often than other pistols, is that the gun's fault? Especially with the million and a half safeties on them things..."

I heard that 70% of all stats are made up on the spot just to prove a point.:D Where would you even get a stat like that? Was there ever a scientific "Mexican carry" study done that I don't know about?:neener:

As for Lorcins having a "million and a half safieties on them", if you consider one single cheap safety a "million and a half" then I guess you are right.:rolleyes:

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I've had occasion to be scrutinized by police while carrying without a permit. The fact that my pistols were holstered in good quality gear convinced them I was one of the good guys. I know of no studies that have been done of such. The cops I have discussed the issue with all agree that criminals rarely use holsters of any type.
 
Mexican Carry

I've used the Mexican IWB with a 1911 a few times, and probably will again
at some point as the weather gets hot. It's a leather thong or length of
parachute cord attached/tied to adjacent belt loops with the pistol carried
in a reverse cant/butt forward in Condition Three. Surprisingly fast to get the gun into play with a little practice...dry, of course...but the disadvantage
is that you either have to have both hands free, or carry a pistol with a standard (sharp) rear sight to enable you to hook it on your pants for a one-hand rack. Works well in T-shirt weather...with a fairly loose-fitting shirt that's a bit long in the tail, and secure enough as long as you don't engage in any gymnastics. Not on the agenda for me any more...Age being the great
equalizer that it is.

With a little applied ingenuity and a willingness to fabricate, it's not too hard to create a loop in the cord that more closely fits the slide for a bit more
control over the gun shifting, and one can even attach a quick-release device on either end for easy on/off the loops. (If it's well designed, it will catch the rear sight to prevent the classic "gun-down-the-pantleg event".) The clasps from small dog leashes work nicely for this...just be sure to attach them securely to the ends.
 
"I've used the Mexican IWB with a 1911 a few times, and probably will again
at some point as the weather gets hot. It's a leather thong or length of
parachute cord attached/tied to adjacent belt loops with the pistol carried
in a reverse cant/butt forward in Condition three."

I have heard this called the OSS holster. I have used it and it does work. It is better than just sticking the gun in your wasteband and adds no bulk at all. It takes two hands to holster the gun though so it is not for a gun that you will be taking on and off a lot during the day.
 
Safety First!.....when wearing briefs always make sure the barrel goes through the opening provided in the front.

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Mann.. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a pistol should ALWAYS live in a holster if on your persons, and a rifle on a sling.

Mex Carry will make you lose body parts.. First thing I tell newbies, don't do what you see on TV...
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I agree with you in general but sometimes a holster isn't possible for one reason or another.

I didn't learn "Mexican carry" on TV....I originally learned it as "Nicaraguan carry" and it wasn't done by gangsters or those ignorant about guns but by very capable gun handlers in Central America.

"Mexican carry" is by far the fastest way to deploy a handgun, by the way, at least if "by far" you are counting in fractions of a second. That's why some of these guys in Central America used it.

It ain't for everyone, that's true, but it also isn't the hallmark of an ignorant, unsafe or inexperienced gun handler, either.

You're better off with your gun in a holster if it's a self-defense piece but it's laughable for anyone to scoff at the method as being ineffective or representative only of those who know little or nothing about firearms.
 
Wait a minute, I recall reading a report or article stating that the majority of LEO ND's are while reholstering the weapon...(Glock trigger getting snagged on the edge of the holster mouth)...

Maybe I was dreaming.


Mexi-carry is not the best option, but it's one that can be used if the user pays real close attention to what they're doing at all times. I wouldn't recommend it for EDC personally, but then again, that's just my opinion, I'm sure everyone else has one too.
 
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I personally don't do the mexican cary thing. I knew a dumbass once who carried a s&w model 10 down with the boys and in case you didn't know, nut sweat is extreamly harsh on the finish of a gun (I think it is rather acidic, which would explain why underwear gets holes down there), poor S&w was badly marred after a few weeks.

I wouldn't treat any gun in that manner, especially if I ever would look to it as a lifesaving tool.
 
We carry guns in order to be prepared for unplanned, violent, periods of vigorous physical activity. It's easy to get complacent, when it hasn't happened recently, but a good holster will, in most cases, keep your gun more secure and accessable during just the kind of incident that we carry to be prepared for. On top of which, you can order a quality holster for almost anything in under five minutes online these days.

Clearly, there are going to be times when it is necessary to carry without a holster. Equally clear, though, is that carrying regularly without a holster is a sign of complacency.
 
Or carry without a holster may be necessary if you subscribe to the philosophy that speed kills. Mexican carry with a clip is faster on the draw than a holster.
 
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>We carry guns in order to be prepared for unplanned, violent, periods of vigorous physical activity.<
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Naaaah. That's why I carry a gun...so I won't HAVE to engage in periods of violent physical activity.:D

Too old to fight...Too dang tired to run.
 
For me, its not significantly faster, and the danger of having the weapon lost or out of position in a physical altercation outweighs it dramatically. I assume that an incident will be sudden, violent, and not necessarily what I planned for. I try to prepare accordingly. The I hope I'll have the opportunity to see it coming and draw, but I do not base my preparations on it.

Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
 
Personally, I find OWB Kydex to be about the fastest presentation overall, unless sitting, then a shoulder rig worn tight is best, but sometimes I have been practically forced to forgo the holster, and I didn't shoot my self in the nuggets...probably because I respected the firearm and the condition in which I was carrying it.
 
For me, its not significantly faster...
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Then you haven't practiced it enough. There is absolutely NO doubt about the speed with which the weapon can be deployed.:rolleyes:


...and the danger of having the weapon lost or out of position in a physical altercation outweighs it dramatically.
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You are correct, however, that a handgun should normally be carried in a holster because we, as citizens, are going to use the firearm for defensive purposes. "Mexican" carry (or however you learned it) is well-suited to carry if an altercation is IMMINENT or if the carrier is going to use the firearm in an offensive role from concealment.;)
 
There is absolutely NO doubt about the speed with which the weapon can be deployed.
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Obviously, there is plenty of doubt, as is evidenced by this three page thread. :rolleyes:

"Mexican" carry (or however you learned it) is well-suited to carry if an altercation is IMMINENT or if the carrier is going to use the firearm in an offensive role from concealment.
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As I pointed out before, the belief that you know when the altercation is going to start, and how it will proceed is a sign of dangerous complaceny.

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