DAWN OF THE DEAD--SPOILERS!!!

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Partially the reason I try and keep 300rounds in the house at all times.
That's all? Heck, I like to keep at least 300 rounds loaded in magazines at all times.

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I mean for each gun! :D


So what do you guys think would be the best (civilian legal) anti-zombie gun to keep as part of the SHTF battery? :)

I've got a FAL, about 30 mags and at least a few cases of ammo. I'm thinkin' that's a good start.
 
I didn't mind the whole running zombies thing. When I first heard from a friend that the zombies moved like that, I was worried. I thought that maybe they were suddenly enhanced by being a zombie and that's why they did that. In the movie, they're just running because that's the fastest way to move. Not a traditional zombie aspect, but it makes holding the line against the zombies a bit more difficult.

As for the gun shop guy, he should have had enough ammo to clear out nearly all the zombies, that is unless the zombies just keep migrating toward the mall area.

My only other problem with the movie was that they had military bases being overrun. I mean, you put one soldier in a tank, and bam! Zombie-mower! What is a horde of zombies going to do against one soldier in his M1 Abrams?
 
It was sad to see Max Headroom go out that way. :D

First bothersome moment. Little girl shows up, doors unlocked, no signs of forced entry. Must be a nice neighborhood.

Secondly, I saw plenty of rifles, ammo, etc in the gun shop. Why didn't they upgrade everyone? An AK with a slew of 30rounders would work wonders.

Also, as for their mobility. Its not like they physically died and decayed yet, so I guess they were still working with fresh muscles?

Finally, the "twitchers". They could take enough damage to "die", but the body not stop functioning fully. So, they're down, but twitching. Enough shots should be able to do that. Andy (gun shop guy) should have been mowing them down day and night.

A good thing I noticed was that Ving's character was cleaning his shotgun.
 
A standard AK would have to be the ultimate zombie gun for the mass hordes of undead...

I enjoyed the movie alot, fast moving zombies break from the oldies a bit, but really they do make it more interesting.

Glad I'm not the only one crazy enough to like watching zombie movies and daydream how I'd do stuff differently...
 
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This movie tore a page from the original (the mall) and from 28 Days (virus). Outside of that, it was a different film. The tempo was moving fast. It worked.

The gun play was excellent as well as the cast. I enjoyed how some of the characters were at first divided, but when things started getting bad, they were all in the fight and it gets NASTY at times. Cant wait for the DVD.

"Burt Reynolds" headshots. Priceless. :cool:
 
A few things I noticed--Spoilers...

1. The mall ninjas. The idiots are disarming the refugees for what reason? In a similar instance, I'd hand him my 9mm sweet as you like...wait till he turns around and drill the pompous fool with my .45 he neglected to ask me for. That will teach him to make sure his plates are firmly duct-taped...Fortunately he redeemed himself later on.

2. I liked the fact that they chose shotguns for close in work over the rifles. As far as the situation goes, close enough works and a shotgun just seems to point more easily. I would have liked to have seen what just one guy with a mini-gun could do. This is of course balanced with the very positive portrayal of the gun store owner and the fact that he didn't have a trunkful of M-4s and grenades hidden against the government in case of war and was actually a lot like the rest of us. Some of us probably have more guns though.

3. I do hate to see a pretty girl catch a chainsaw to the chest.

4. I do like to see a metrosexual get exactly what he deserves.

5. The fact they can move fast is why they seem dangerous. If they just kinda shamble about, how are they going to overrun army bases?
 
Actually, slow moving zombies is the problem I've always had with traditional zombie movies. This one solves that with fast moving zombies. With the older movies I would always be saying to myself, what's so dangerous about them. You can just walk at a brisk pace and stay clear of them. If armed, even better.

As for the perfect guns, an AK and a bunch of 40 round mags would do quite nicely. A high cap 9mm would be my choice of sidearm, with lots of mags fully loaded. You apparently don't need a .45, because zombies don't experience shock. You just need to put a hole in their brains to stop them. A 9mm is as good at that as a .45, and you can carry more ammo.

I, of course, really liked the gun shop guy. He was probably a varminter, based on his rifle and skill. He probably had all the battle rifles up there with him, all loaded and ready with all the spare mags loaded up, just in case they broke into the store and on the roof.

Don't most gun shops carry lots of freeze dried food and MREs for survivalists, campers, hunters, and backpackers? That's what was running through my head when he said he was hungry. Maybe his was one of the few gun shops that don't cater to survivalists/ campers/ hunters/ backpackers.
 
It definitely had some odd gunhandling moments in it. I had to wonder what the main mall ninja was doing with that .357, it looked like a S&W Highway Patrolman? Mostly it moved so fast it was hard to tell what people were using, except for the stainless Beretta and the Police 870, which I think got their own SAG cards for doing this film.
Strangest idea I saw was when they went all John Woo in the storm drains, slapping two automatics into that guy's hands and dragging him backward by his collar while he covers the retreat.
Next best was the horror movie idiot cliche; "yeah, everyone with a gun stay here, I'll go wander around alone looking for zombies with just my crowbar..."

The whole idea of having to make headshots on a huge zombie crowd running toward you at what looked like 45mph is pretty terrifying. Same with the scene where they were all coming up the stairs, although if they could do that well with shotguns and pistols, it's hard to see how the zombies would pull it off against a fireteam at the army base.
Then again, how do they run as fast as cars? And all the way across town, no less? And since we've got the spoiler warning up, what the hell tropical volcanic island can you sail to from Wisconsin? It looked like St. Lucia, which is a hell of a long way from Wisconsin by boat. I guess they forgot to change all the script when they changed the setting from Washington state to Wisconsin?
 
Quit nitpicking. It was a great horror/action film that did gun-owners right. What more do you want?

As much as I love the original DOTD, it really isn't a horror movie. The early scenes with the SWAT team in the projects contained the only scary moments; then it quickly turned into an action/adventure film, albeit an entertaining one.

When you have a broad cross-section of individuals with different needs, egos, and directives, it's very difficult to formulate or coordinate a solid logistical plan. So it becomes easy for the viewer to think from time to time, "Gee, why didn't they do this, or do that?"

As far as I know, the zombies were able to run because rigor mortis had not set in. These zombies were not long dead corpses that suddenly rose from their graves, they were all victims of subsequent zombie attacks, quickly dying and immediately coming back to life. The blood and muscles did not have enough time to stiffen or rot.
 
Well yes, but... hmm... ah, you're right, I'm nitpicking. The movie made me think of a review in some gun magazine of Quigley Down Under, where the author said it ought to be billed as starring The Sharps and Tom Selleck... Here, the 870 with the surefire was the hero, and I guess the Beretta 92FS was the gun equivalent of it's love interest. They could have made a great team, but the FS never made it into Ving's empty holster.;)
It was so sad when the zombies grabbed the 870, and the Beretta almost made it to safety... heartbreaker. The supporting cast was ok; the 870 topfolder and Glock turned in some great, but short performances near the end... The big .357 should have had more lines though, and that fat barrel M&P looking revolver was just phoning it in.
 
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My only other problem with the movie was that they had military bases being overrun. I mean, you put one soldier in a tank, and bam! Zombie-mower! What is a horde of zombies going to do against one soldier in his M1 Abrams?

You have to fuel that Abrams up some time. When the gas station attendant is dead and you are out of gas what do you do? When the AC130 needs to land, how are they going to refuel with zombies spewing all over the flightline?
 
I would want an old fashioned chain flail mine clearing tank, and screw the attendant, I can pump diesel myself.

For firearms I would go with an AR-15, match .223 upper, and a 22LR upper. Side arms 9mm, and a .22LR.

I will probably go see this movie.
 
As far as I know, the zombies were able to run because rigor mortis had not set in.
Rigor is only a temporary condition anyway; it sets in, then goes away.
 
Whoa...interesting flick...

Seem most of the Zombie, last people on earth kinda movies over the years...and I found that this one, though a remake, was pretty good. Kept me entranced with out terrifying everyone.
The best part was when the movie was over and Milady stated to me, 'I need more ammo, mags, practise and a bigger gun!! How much are those cute AK's?"
Yes, the gun store owner, could have mowed alot of the critter's down....hey even a scoped 10/22 would ding a zombie skull when there was no way that can get you on the roof. And the heavier rifles and odd calibers(.243, 25-06, etc) for the longer shots. See if you can line up a few in a row and break out the magnum bolt guns, and old military bolt actions.
Would have thought Ving, the old Jarhead/ Sgt in the PD would grab something with short, sweet with 30 round mags in the store rather than all the pistols...but hey it is a flick.
Pretty girl...chain saw...bad(nice to have a Victoria's Secret in the Mall!!)
Butthead jerkwad...headshot...good.
The head security guard was just acting out of old fashion self-preservation thermonuclearized by an unusual event where little factual info, other than people were dying, and attacking other people, the world had gone crazy. Our loved ones were turning on us and people were eating people. Not sure about you, but that would put my survival instinct on hyperdrive and narrow my trust in other people down to the thickness of a nanothread.
I swore I saw a sporting good store in the first scenes of the mall, well known hereabout for stocking guns and ammo, and every kind of camping gear known to man. That would be my hidey hole, my panic room.
How long does it take a zombie to starve?
Well, I am sure we'll never know...may such things rest only in the imaginations of movie writer's!!
Jercamp45
 
Zombies typically only move slow when they don't have a target. The slow shuffling of zombies can be regarded as a target acqusition mode. Moving at slow speed allows their less efficient, decaying sensory system more time to interpret sensory input.

Once a target has been identified, however, the zombie can focus all of its attention on pursuit and capture of the target, which is why it doesn't notice other potential targets.

If a group of zombies are biving chase to a group of humans and they manage to grab the rearmost human, the zombies will all attack that human to the exclusion of the others. Once the fallen human has been terminated, the zombies will then attempt to acquire a new target.

This limited interpretation ability also explains why zombies whose eyes are covered act in a very calm, non aggresive fashion. While the eyes are covered, they are unable to locate a target. They may hear potential targets, and will move slowly and turn round and round searching for their prey, but until they are able to see and confirm human movement, they will not attack. Essentially, while their eyes are covered, the world does not exist. Once the hood is lifted, however, its run like a mad zombie time.

Until they catch a skull full of buckshot.
 
Zombies typically only move slow when they don't have a target. The slow shuffling of zombies can be regarded as a target acqusition mode. Moving at slow speed allows their less efficient, decaying sensory system more time to interpret sensory input.

Once a target has been identified, however, the zombie can focus all of its attention on pursuit and capture of the target, which is why it doesn't notice other potential targets.

If a group of zombies are biving chase to a group of humans and they manage to grab the rearmost human, the zombies will all attack that human to the exclusion of the others. Once the fallen human has been terminated, the zombies will then attempt to acquire a new target.

This limited interpretation ability also explains why zombies whose eyes are covered act in a very calm, non aggresive fashion. While the eyes are covered, they are unable to locate a target. They may hear potential targets, and will move slowly and turn round and round searching for their prey, but until they are able to see and confirm human movement, they will not attack. Essentially, while their eyes are covered, the world does not exist. Once the hood is lifted, however, its run like a mad zombie time.

Until they catch a skull full of buckshot.

sounds like you've done some behavioral neuroscience research on zombies or something. :D
 
If I was the gun shop owner, I'd would have spent every waking hour picking off as many zombies as possible. But being worried that the extra gun shot noise would bring even more zombies (remember that some were already coming because they remembered in life that was where they spent all most of their time). I would have fashioned a silencer and shot till all my ammo was gone. This would not attract any other zombies not already coming to the mall. And this would at least lowered the final number of zombies I'd have to deal with in the end. Figure 500-1000 zombies a day would be good. But imagine the smell of dead flesh. :uhoh:

A 10/22 would have been perfect for this job.

Personally at home, I keep a lightweight AR with a 120 round drum loaded. In a zombie situation, I'd carry that and the wife gets the AK with the 75 round drums. I love Fals, but for battleing zombies, a lightweight rifle with plenty of firepower (minimal mag changes the better).

Actually I'm going out to buy a few bunch of bricks of 22 this week. Will put it next to my thousands of rounds of 223, 308 and 7.62 x39.
 
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