Jammer Six
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There's an Oak Street Cat Lovers Club?
Day Workers Thrust Virginia Town Into Illegal-Immigration Fight
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longeyes
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Uhboy.
No, you're right, there are no church groups actively encouraging illegal immigrants to come here. There are no illegal aliens being knowingly fed, clothed, housed, educated, and spiritually ministered to by church groups in America. You're right, it's my imagination. (Where's that roll-your-eyes emoticon when I need it?)
Do I have a double standard? No. I have standards. As I said, there is no equivalency in my mind between the primal right of self-defense and defense against tyranny and embracing illegal immigration. You call that a double-standard, I call that careful intellectual discrimination. So be it.
No, you're right, there are no church groups actively encouraging illegal immigrants to come here. There are no illegal aliens being knowingly fed, clothed, housed, educated, and spiritually ministered to by church groups in America. You're right, it's my imagination. (Where's that roll-your-eyes emoticon when I need it?)
Do I have a double standard? No. I have standards. As I said, there is no equivalency in my mind between the primal right of self-defense and defense against tyranny and embracing illegal immigration. You call that a double-standard, I call that careful intellectual discrimination. So be it.
longeyes
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"This isn't really a religious discussion."
Yeah, it is. We know that various race-based immigrant advocacy groups are doing their damnednest to aid, abet, and protect illegal immigration. La Raza might be an example. Any faith-based orgs involved? Ask around, check it out, esse.
I think you need to take this up with our esteemed Attorney General, one Alberto Gonsalez. No doubt he has all the information needed to prove my point buried somewhere in his closet at work.
Yeah, it is. We know that various race-based immigrant advocacy groups are doing their damnednest to aid, abet, and protect illegal immigration. La Raza might be an example. Any faith-based orgs involved? Ask around, check it out, esse.
I think you need to take this up with our esteemed Attorney General, one Alberto Gonsalez. No doubt he has all the information needed to prove my point buried somewhere in his closet at work.
cuchulainn
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Once again, I never claimed anything one way or the other. I simply asked you to provide evidence to support your allegations of criminal activity by churches. You have not.
If you had provided evidence, I would have promptly thanked you and acknowledged that you were correct.
Right, your values are worth placing above the law, but other people's values are not.
Funny thing: Personally, I agree with you that the RKBA is worth breaking the law over, but immigration is not. But you’ve utterly missed my point. I haven’t said those two acts are equivalent (I don't think they are) – I’ve simply questioned how you can criticize people's willingness to break the law to stand up for their beliefs and then turn around and say that you’d break the law to stand up for your beliefs.
Of course, you 've failed/refused to provide any evidence of law breaking, so it's probably a moot point.
You know what? I too probably would have balked at making that prayer, or at least raised my eyebrows. But if that's the worst going on at churches, you'll have to excuse my lack of indignation.
Yes, they're headquartered on Elm Avenue and meet every second Tuesday on Pine Road to feast on cats. I didn't say how they love them, did I?
Jammer Six
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Nope, you didn't.
I'm always looking for fresh reactive targets, and cats never seem to last very long.
Fletchette
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Is there any logic to this statement or are you just trying to pull someone's leg?
News Flash!!
The people standing at the day-labor site are WORKING for a living
Thats kinda the point. i dont really care if our glorious and righteous government gives a person the appropriate piece of paper or not. My litmus test for "good americans" includes paying one's own way. Guess what, a lot of natural born Americans dont make the grade and a lot of 'wets' do. Its an easy system if you use it on an individual basis, it just makes it hard to generalize, so its no fun on the internet.
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