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DC Senators and Guns, Oh My

Discussion in 'Legal' started by BenW, Jun 23, 2005.

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  1. BenW

    BenW Member

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    I know we've touched on this particular story before, but I was very, very impressed with this reporter's completely unbiased take on it.......

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    GUN CONTROL
    Re-arming DC: Senators want to pack heat in capital
    BY DAVID S. BERNSTEIN



    As a US Senator from Texas, Kay Bailey Hutchison splits time between her home state, where she is allowed to own practically any weapon invented and can even carry a concealed handgun, and the District of Columbia, where she can’t even keep a .357 Magnum in her house. For 12 years she has managed to abide this without complaint, but apparently she’s had enough. In May, she filed a bill to overturn DC’s gun-control laws, and this week she indicated that she has more than 30 co-sponsors and intends to push it to the floor for a vote in the near future.

    The bill would, in one swoop, negate all the gun laws the district has adopted over the past 30 years, including pre-purchase criminal-background checks and bans on semi-automatic weapons and cop-killer bullets. If it passes the Senate, it is expected to breeze through the House, which passed a similar bill last September.

    In the press release announcing the bill, Hutchison is quoted saying, apparently without irony: "The rights guaranteed by the Constitution do not end at the borders of Washington, DC."

    In fact, the bill is an example of the opposite: unlike everyone else in North America, DC residents can have their own local laws rewritten by a group — the US Congress — in which they cannot elect a voting member.

    Hutchison’s statement refers, of course, to the Second Amendment, which makes the quote doubly ironic; the bill is relevant only because the constitutionality of DC’s gun laws has been upheld against challenges sponsored by the National Rifle Association and the Cato Institute.

    The mayor, police commissioner, city-council chair, and virtually every other Washington politician have spoken out against the bill. Meanwhile, crime in DC is declining under the current laws. Homicides dropped 20 percent in Washington last year to a 20-year low, and are down another 17 percent so far this year.

    "It would really be hard to find a more unified consensus behind any policy stronger than the one behind gun control" in the district, says Casey Anderson, spokesperson for the Washington-based Coalition To Stop Gun Violence — except, perhaps, for opposition to congressional meddling in DC home rule.

    All of which has nothing to do with whether it becomes law. "This bill is primarily designed to allow Republican members of the House and Senate to pose as gun-rights fundamentalists for the benefit of their base," says Anderson.

    "One would hope that the Congress would have better things to worry about than flooding the nation’s capital with guns," says Sean Tenner, chairman of DC for Democracy, which lobbies for DC-statehood rights. "But I’ve been wrong before."
    http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/this_just_in/documents/04776528.asp
     
  2. Zrex

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    Amazing how a little self-interest will get the ball rolling, eh?
     
  3. RavenVT100

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    Heh, "flooding the nation's capitol with guns."

    DC is already flooded with guns. Illegal ones. I'm so sick of this straw argument being brought up--as if we want to air-drop tons of weapons into DC--when in actuality all that is desired is for the residents of DC who want to be able to own a weapon to have the right to do so. If people don't want to own one, then fine.
     
  4. Standing Wolf

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    Actually, now that you mention it...
     
  5. Pilgrim

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    Ever since the general counsel for the Department of Justice said it was a bad idea to make them (congress critters) deputy U.S. Marshals, this was bound to happen.

    Pilgrim
     
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    is it true that homicides are at a 20 year low in DC?? that seems contrary to everything i've heard
     
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    I'd love to see a photograph (maybe the author of the article can provide one?) of a "cop-killer bullet" as was banned under these oh-so-successful D.C. laws. :rolleyes:

    And, um, haven't any cops been killed by bullets since the ban on "cop-killer" ones? Wouldn't that make them "cop-killer bullets" that somehow (mercy me, HOW?) got around the ban?

    The author's obviously a know-nothing jerkoff.


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  8. nico

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    what they don't mention is that the gun ban was enacted about 27 years ago and that violent crime and homicide are still nowhere near that number.


    edit: THAT was published as a "news" article? :what: :barf:
     
  9. Alex45ACP

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    They make bullets that target and lock onto police officers? WOW! We need to get those off the streets!

    :rolleyes:

    That article was very biased. He interviewed a bunch of anti gunners but no human rights activists, and he used stupid buzz words like "cop killer" bullets. :cuss:
     
  10. Justin

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  11. Monkeyleg

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    nico: yes, it's true. What they fail to mention is that DC homicides fell from a rate of over 60+ per 100,000 to 45.8 per 100,000.

    Milwaukee, a city with roughly the same size population, hit its peak with a homicide rate of 18 per 100,000.

    Of course, we have those "lax gun laws." ;)
     
  12. Fly320s

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    Is DC allowed to "home rule?" Isn't DC a federal property area?
     
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    Funny how the writer doesn't mind when Congress meddled in state/local home rule with the Feinstein ban in 1994...

    The reporter should definitely get her/his facts straight. They might point out that D.C.'s crime rate is the highest in the nation, for starters...
     
  14. dolanp

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    Yup despite a total ban by the gun-grabbers DC enjoys the highest homicide rate in the country. Figure that one out if you can, Mr. Democrat.
     
  15. boofus

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    Chicago frequently competes with DC for the murder king of the US too.
     
  16. R.H. Lee

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    Why are liberals, in the face of incontrovertible evidence, completely unable to admit their policies fail miserably, and instead engage in mindless hyperbole?
     
  17. dolanp

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    It seems that when dealing with the sheeple, that is the best approach. :rolleyes:
     
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