Decent group size would be???

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I mainly shoot a .22 Mark II pistol and a .22 Savage Mark II bolt action (both iron sights) at my local range. I shoot both against paper at 15 and 25 yards, respectively.

I always shoot both standing up, unsupported.

What would be considered "good" groups on paper at those ranges with those guns, unsupported?
 
Unless you are tournament shooting, with a tourney gun, 1" groups wood be great at those ranges with a pistol, and good with a rifle.

They would put food on the table with ease, and thats good enough for me.
 
Standing and unsupported..........I'm not a target shooter and consider myself average with a handgun. With my SA 45 automatic I can manage to shoot (7 shoots) a 3" to 3 1/2" group sometime in a range session. That's at 25 yards. My more typical group size is 4 1/2" @ 25 yards. I would like to think I can shoot a 22 group a little smaller. I use an 8 X 11 piece of paper and will usually keep all shots on the paper. I really don't see many people at my indoor range doing a lot better that the above.

I know there are many that think this is terrible but that's the real deal with my 45 handgun shooting. 1" groups with a 45 auto? Really guys, my gun in a vice wouldn't shoot that.
 
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