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deer and coyote rifle

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by demonseed34, Jan 5, 2010.

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  1. demonseed34

    demonseed34 Member

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    I am looking in to buying a hunting rifle that i can use as an all around hunting gun. I was thinking on geting an abolt in 300 winchseter mag. but i am afraid that it might be too big for cyotes and just right for deer. can some one give me insite?:confused:
     
  2. Bobarino

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    that's quite a bit for deer and 'yotes. expensive ammo, harsh recoil, long action etc. might want to check out the .243 or .260 for short actions or perhaps a .270 if you don't mind a long action. you won't ruin quite as much meat on the deer with one of those...

    Bobby
     
  3. dakotasin

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    too big for coyotes? fur prices what they are, i wouldn't sweat it. bullet probably won't expand, anyway.

    that said, for a beginning hunter, i'd reccomend you look to 7-08, or 308.
     
  4. rizbunk77

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    Ruger M77V 6mm. 87gr. Hornady SP. Leupold or old Weaver K6W scope. Sight in 1.5 inches high at 200 yds. This is not theoretical.
     
  5. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    The classic style is the turnbolt. I recommend it.

    The classic chamberings for this combo use are .243 Win or 6mm Rem. I recommend one of them. Maybe .257 Roberts or .25-'06 or .260 Rem or 6.5x55 swedish. A .300 maggie is way way waaay too much gun for these uses. Unless you like wasting money on ammo, like a lot of recoil & noise, and/or like toting around a really heavy rifle all day as a form of exercise.

    The brand - how much have you got to spend?

    I don't think I'd want to argue with this man - game, set, & /thread! :)
     
  6. Texas Gun Person

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    I would suggest .243 Win
     
  7. Texpatriate

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    I would look at something calibered in between .243 and .308 for your purposes. The .300 Win Mag would be overkill and expensive to shoot. I have a Savage Model 99 in .243 Win, an AR-15 in 6.8 SPC, and a Weatherby Mark V in .270 Win that I would all consider just about perfect for what you want to do, depending on what kind of hunting I was doing, environmental factors, and personal preferences. A big long bolt gun is a pain to carry around in thick woods and the scope I have on it would be overkill for the kind of short distances I would encounter, but it would be perfect for a treestand hunt overlooking a massive food plot or a coyote hunt in open country. Meanwhile, the AR and the 99 are both short, handy and fast handling- perfect for a deep woods stalk or a deer drive.

    You would be wise to choose your platform first based on the kind of hunting you will be doing, and then begin to look at the issue of caliber availability in your chosen platform. There are many calibers that can do what you're looking for, so I would not get hung up on caliber as the primary consideration. Figure out what action you are most comfortable with for your purposes, then let that determine what caliber you want based on availability in your chosen platform.
     
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    That would be a nice all around setup that would do many things well. Not perfect for every scenario, but a pretty dang good start.
     
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    .243 is perfect for that
     
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    .243 or 6mm Rem
     
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    .243 seems perfect for a lot of guns. I was just looking at an NEF Handi in .243

    I would concentrate more on what you need to humanely harvest deer in your area, and use the same gun for Coyote. Trying to find a one size fits both may limit your choices.

    Just my opinion.
     
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    Pre '64 Model 70 Winchester in .30-06. 150 grain power points. It'll do.
     
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    for all around hunting, I seriously recommend a .270 or 30/06. For a beginner shooter, 7/08. If you want to lesson the damage done on fur you could always go with a 25/06 and aim for the head on the yotes.
     
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    .243 Win, 6mm rem, .25-06 Rem, .260 rem. 6.5x55mm Swede, 7mm-08. If deer are to be your largest game, no reason to put up with the recoil of larger cartridges. The .25-06 will be the flattest shooting of the bunch.
     
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    Ah, a man after my own heart. The .30-06 will do anything you need done in North America. Seventy-five years ago, Colonel Townsend Whelen used to have a column in a hunting magazine and a common question was "What sort of gun should I get for . . . "

    Col. Whelen would give a detailed answer, but always ended with "The .30-06 is never a mistake."
     
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    6.5x55 or a 7mm-08.
     
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    I like the abolts action. it is one of the only guns i have shot at a sight in, in wich i did not have to remove my head from the stock to cycle the next round and it was chambered in 300 win mag. I have also shot one in 300 weatherby magnum and that was a bit over kill to me. i was also planing on reloding my own rounds for the gun because i have a sw 500 mag that is a bit on the pricey side. i take that out hunting when i shoot shotgun territory.
     
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    .30-30 or a bolt action 7.62x39? Either would work fine for that purpose.
     
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    .308 is great for deer, and it doesnt matter what you use for coyote, some people take them with a .22 (amazing bullet placement involved though) I have seen videos of people taking prairie dogs with .50 BMG, so anything for yotes, .308 is a safe bet for deer, or .243 for less recoil,
     
  21. MJR007

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    Simple 25-06.
     
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    I have to agree with the 25-06. I also think the .257 Roberts would be ok too. .260 is good but hard to find ammo for it these days.
     
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    I just saw my old man take alot of coyotes and deer with a 6mm Rem setup with 87-100 grain bullets sighted in about 1.5 inches high at 200. Also being able to whistle loud helps to turn them coyotes around when they are out there and running.
     
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    .300 mag just right for deer, and you own a .500 smith as your trail gun. If you ever go hunt moose go for an M82 Barrett and if any beers come your way, I know a guy in mexico who can hook you up with an RPG. Everyone has been on the money although a .30-06 is even a little big for those two game animals if you never intend to use the rifle for anything larger. However it sounds like you like overpower, so I say if it makes you sleep better the .300 will kill 'em both but if you want to shoot often go with a 7mm-08 or a .260.
     
  25. CPLofMARINES

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    Check out the Rem. 700 VTR in .308, you might like it!!:D




    Semper Fi!!
     
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