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Deer Hunting with Glock 23

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Borch, Jul 18, 2009.

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  1. Borch

    Borch Member

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    MN has relaxed their laws regarding hunting with handguns to the point where it would be totally legal for me to hunt with my Glock 23 this fall. I am strongly considering this just to try something different.

    Anyone have any thoughts on pros or cons? Best ammo types? Special considerations?

    Looking for feedback as I have never hunted deer with anything but a 12 ga or a .54 muzzleloader before.
     
  2. David E

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    If you give a rip about the deer , you'll use something better suited for it.

    I was hoping you were asking about taking the G-23 as a backup/coup de grace gun....in which case, it'd be a dandy choice.

    If you ignore this, then practice until you can hit a paper plate at 50 yds (or closer, if you can't hit at 50) and load Gold Dot 180 grain JHP's

    Don't go past 50 yds.
     
  3. uvausmc

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    I would go for it but with a few conditions. I wouldn't attempt a shot past 25 yards, i would be completely confident that I can hit my target (paper plate size) in any condition, and I would make sure I have an adequate bullet/load. Pretty much the same as all hunting but like i said i would keep it close. Unless you are hunting those fabled super deer that can only be killed with a magnum rifle round you should be fine as long as you have good shot placement.

    A few seasons ago I killed a whitetail with my 4 3/4" barrel Ruger Vaquero in .357. I stalked her to within about 20 yards. It's not your typical deer handgun but with one federal hardcast bullet through the boiler room the deer was just as dead as all the ones i've shot with a .308 or .270 WSM.

    I used to watch a pretty good outdoors show in Georgia called O'Niell Outside. On the show he killed one deer after another with his Glock .40 S&W throughout the southeast. http://www.oneilloutside.com/
     
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  4. CDW4ME

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    I considered deer hunting with my XD45 compact, after further thought it's a no go.
    The best I can realistically do freehand at 25 yards with the pistol is a 5 shot group that's 4-5''. That level of accuracy isn't as good as what I obtain with my bow; with the bow I typically shoot 3'' groups at 30 yards.
    I don't know if the handgun would blow completely through the deer, and no exit hole could make for difficult tracking. The arrow typically blows through the deer (over 20 bowkills and the arrow has blown through 87% of the time).
    A 45 bullet might expand to 75 caliber. My smallest broadhead is a 1'' four blade. The broadhead would definitely make a bigger hole.
    So, the pistol comes up short compared to my bow.
    Also, I'm not satisfied to hit a pie plate; I want at least consistent 4'' groups in practice to leave a margin for error in hunting conditions.

    If you do use the Glock get several different 180 grain bullets and compare each for accuracy; you'll be amazed how some loads group significantly better than others.
     
  5. The Lone Haranguer

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    All but the largest deer are no bigger/heavier than a human. If the .40 is powerful enough for two-legged animals it should handle the four-legged ones. This assumes you possess the necessary stalking (to get close enough) and shooting skills.
     
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    But the difference is, you never know when (if ever) you might encounter a two-legged predator. So you are willing to sacrifice power for portability and concealability. When you hunt, you know you're going to shoot a deer, and you select your weapon accordingly.
     
  7. hwp

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    I have shot about a dozen deer at close range with a 40cal pistol, all wounded from being struck by a car. All shots were to the head. Not all of the deer died instantly.

    Everyone on the internet is a fanatastic shot and I'm sure someone here claims they can make a head shot on a moving deer at 20 yds with a COMPACT combat pistol (glock 23) but even if you could (and you can NOT) it is a stupid thing to do.

    Has anyone here ever ran 40 S&W ammo through a chrono out of a G23? I have. Would you knowingly hunt with a 180gr bullet at <800FPS?

    The smallest handgun round that should be used on whitetail is a HOT 158gr+ 357mag and it is marginal.
     
  8. ChCx2744

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    If you can get close enough and put a round into it's computer...Well...I'd say it should drop...
     
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    I know you can kill a deer with a 40 cal, but you can also kill one with a 22. As always the question is should you, not could you. If you want to hunt with a Glock or a handgun why not get one in a 10 mm.
     
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    If you just have to use your glock use it at the same yardages that you would use a bow and try atleast a 160grain hp bullets.
     
  11. PO2Hammer

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    Not a good enough reason. The deer deserve better.
     
  12. jackdanson

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    Famous last words!

    I wouldn't do it.
     
  13. danbrew

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    I've shot a deer in the head with a Glock 23 before - moments after I ran him over. It required a second shot to put him down. Go figure. Both were headshots.

    While I don't go out of my way to run over deer, they're like rats where I am - you can count on having a close call once a year and a hit once every couple of years. Here's the last one - this one didn't require a follow up shot. It was dead right there. Although, unsurprisingly, he was gone about 15 minutes after I hit him. I dragged him to the side of the road and went back by not so long later and somebody had already grabbed him.

    [​IMG]

    :D
     
  14. Borch

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    OK folks, I guess it's clarification time.

    1) I live and hunt in the lower SE corner of MN where trees and brush are so thick anything longer then 40 yds even with a 12 ga slug can be a marginal shot. SO obviously I would not be shooting long range.

    2) Head shots are out of the question (should be for any responsible hunter). Even for a coup de grace, as someone said, this is foolish. Deer's skulls are nearly as hard as rock and extremely thick in some areas. Bread basket only for target zone.

    3) Obvioulsy a heavy hollow point or cast lead semi wadcutter hot handload would be the ammo of choice. My Glock has an aftermarket barrel and is fully supported and can handle the extra punch of a hot load.

    4) Before season I would have my Glock fitted with a red dot just to help my sight picture and accuracy. Even though I can put a full mag inside 6 inches at 30 yds with open sights already.

    5) No stalking needed to get close. I stand hunt and the last 4 deer I have taken have been at 30 yds or less.

    And to all those who say things like, "the deer deserve better" or "if you give a rip about the deer" y'all obviously haven't hunted the lower corner of MN before. Many thousands of deer die slowly from infection or bleeding out after being wounded by half ass shotgun hunters who think just because they are shooting with the big bad 12 ga that shot placement doesn't matter.

    I am not an amateur and this is not a decision I would make lightly. Somewhere in the last near 20 years deer hunting has become easy with the cantilevered, rifled slug barrels and the 1- 4 power scopes and the accurate to 200 yd slugs, etc, etc. I am simply exploring some possible ways to put back the challenge it once held for me. And bow hunting is out of the question because I already do that. Maybe I should just take 1 shell into the woods with me, but then again my last 5 deer have been taken with only 1 shell so that accomplishes nothing. Maybe it's just time to give it up all together and move on to something else. I don't know.
     
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    "And to all those who say things like, "the deer deserve better" or "if you give a rip about the deer" y'all obviously haven't hunted the lower corner of MN before. Many thousands of deer die slowly from infection or bleeding out after being wounded by half ass shotgun hunters who think just because they are shooting with the big bad 12 ga that shot placement doesn't matter."


    No, the deer do deserve better
     
  16. Slamfire

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    Agreed.
     
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    Using a defensive handgun for deer hunting would a very stupid thing to do.

    Also, for TLH, you cannot compare humans with deer. A deer reacts solely on instinct and will run or fight to the last ounce of life while a human knows he's been shot and reacts intellectually, and often gives up. The deer won't give up until it actually bleeds out... which will take a long time after being shot with a 40 caliber pistol.

    Bad idea. Stupid.
     
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    That's not hunting, it's deer "waiting"

    and a 6" group at thirty yards, in a "deer waiting" scenario, isn't anything to write home about
     
  19. surjimmy

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    I see nothing wrong with stand hunting, and YES it is Deer Hunting. I think even though you are experienced hunter and marksman that a 40 cal. should not be used to hunt deer. I'm not saying you shouldn't hunt deer with a pistol even a Glock just get one in the right caliber. My choice would be 10mm.
     
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    Head shots are the only option with weak handgun rounds like the 40sw.

    6" at 30yds with a G23 is awesome and I would "call and raise" if we were at the range together. Like I said earlier everyone on the net is an awesome shot.
     
  21. American Finn

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    Dear Borch-

    I am in agreement with several of the other members: the .40 caliber Glock is a little light for your intended purpose of hunting deer with it.

    Now, I understand where you are coming from: you want a more challenging and enjoyable hunting experience. My advice to you would be to acquire a .44 or .41 Magnum handgun (or any of the other larger caliber handguns, like the .454 Casull, etc.) as this would not only provide you a greater margin of power when using on a deer, but this also allows you to chase other game animals such as bear, elk, and for a competent shooter, moose.

    If anything, it gives you a reason to purchase a new gun!

    Good luck and good shooting.
     
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    In all fairness if you need more of a "challenge" you could get out of the stand instead of deploying a totally useless "compact carry handgun" to make things more interesting.

    Hell if this is the case why not use an air rifle? Or a sling shot? Maybe a spear? A baseball bat?

    If you want to hunt with a handgun that is great. Just use one that is suited to the job. A 40sw is not suited for hunting.
     
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    Now you're talking!

     
  24. David E

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    That's why you don't shoot them in the extremely thick areas ! IN the ear or between the eyes does it every time.

    Now you're muddying up the waters.... in your first post you said:
    You posted:
    but then chastise any post that apparently doesn't contain the feedback you desire. Next, you declare:
    Ok, but it makes me wonder why asked for our input at all ? :confused:

    Handgun hunting is a challenging pursuit, no one is disputing that. It's your gun choice that people have an issue with. Why not buy a .357 or .44 or 10mm and go bag your deer with one of those?
     
  25. Mike J

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    I can understand the reasons for wanting to hunt with a handgun but I wouldn't want to use a .40 to do it. While I've never tried handgun hunting I don't think I'd want to use anything less than a .357 with at least a 6" barrel to do it.
     
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