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Deer season and deer hunting idiots at range

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by BeltfedMG, Sep 19, 2008.

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  1. BeltfedMG

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    Well its that time of yr, deer season comin and all the deer hunters that only shoot one time a yr come out to the public range and pull their stupid crap. I get into more fights with people this time yr then any other. Our range is 600 yrds long and 100-130 yrds wide. The most common thing is if im at the rt side of the range shootin and they are shootin on the left side they think its alright to just walk on down to the 100 yrd stands to check their targets while im still shootin, they dont call it cold or anything. This kind of **** absolutly drives me nuts. Then when you say something to them they act like they know what they are doin is safe, "Im a vet, ex millitary, i know how to be safe around guns" is what i hear from time to time.

    Then theres the guys who aim the guns all over the place right at you and everyone else. Even seen them shoot holes in the roof of the pavilion and think nothin of it....It was a accident, so what.

    Its bad enough last yr the range capts decided that it may be mandatory durin deer season and month or so before to have a range nazi there to keep this stuff down. I dont want a manned range, its nice to go there and be alone sometimes. It seems that most of the guys who do these things are out of towwners, city boys that come out to hunt. I assume city boys cause this is a small town 500 people so if i dont know em, they arent from around here chances are.

    Anyway, rant off but does anyone else notice the hightened dangers at the range this time of yr?
     
  2. elChupacabra!

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    Not sure but I'll keep my eye out for 'em tomorrow when I go, although I shoot at a club so that will probably help....

    Although I must say, only the FIRST post and Godwin's Law has already struck... awesome :)
     
  3. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    So, you continued shooting while they are downrange?

    I think I see the problem and it might not be entirely caused by the deer hunters.

    Sounds like it might be a good idea to keep the local regulars from starting fights.

    I reckon you best avoid them city boys with their fancy rifles and mouths full of teeth from them fancy city dentists. They don't know they ain't supposed to be out on your range. Next thing you know the local diner will only serve fillay min-yawn and es-car-guts.

    I'd sure love to hear the other side of this from the city boys who talk about the crazy guy who kept shooting on the range while they were checking their targets and then had the audacity to come down and lecture them about gun safety.
     
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  4. bogie

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    Hey, Beltfed... Lemme take you to STLBRRC some time...
     
  5. Eric F

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    well I guess I will find out, I an going to the range next week.
     
  6. K3

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    Hopefully he means arguments rather than fights.
     
  7. buck460XVR

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    I was kinda thinkin' the same thing.:rolleyes:


    I learned years ago to avoid the range the month before season. After opening weekend I have it to myself again for 11 months. It's similar to tryin' to shop the week before Christmas......if you're there too, then you're no better than the rest of them.
     
  8. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    Even then, I would say that getting into arguments at the range with regular enough frequency to note an increase during hunting season isn't a great idea.

    Oh, that's a great example. I should start my shopping early.
     
  9. Eric F

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    Some one sounds upset!

    Jorg
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    Wow Jorg either your kidding around pretty rough or some one hit your button:neener:..........are you one of these once a year shooters?:confused: Whats it like hearing bullets wiz by while your looking at your target at the 100 yrd line?:eek:
     
  10. cassandrasdaddy

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    you couldn't pay me to go to the public range at the wma on a sat or sunday afternoon . too many once a year shooters and bud light for my taste. same with early rifle season i won't ride my mountain bike in the woods then
     
  11. 220_Swift

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    Sounds to me like you are part of the problem. I'm sure it isn't the same exact people year after year. Yet you put them all in the same category. Either learn to cooperate, or don't go to the range for a month or so.

    The range I belong to has people I've never met before. And when I get there, and there is someone new, or if they come while I'm shooting, I stop and go over and talk to them. I ask them, do you want to go cold every so many minutes, or do you just want to call it when you need to. This does a couple things. You no longer are a standoff stranger, you have broken the ice. It also sets up some basic guidelines for saftey. It also let the other people know what you expect of them. By asking them there choice, time or just call it, you have put the ball in there court. Let them decide when to go cold. They will be much more appreciative, and you will get better results than just sulking in the corner.

    Do with it as you please, but you will live a happier life without so much anxiety.

    JMHO of course.
     
  12. Double Naught Spy

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    What gets me is Beltfed knows it is coming and is mentally amping up for the confrontations already (as evidenced by the tone of the post) instead of doing the smart thing and avoiding the range all together or finding some place else to shoot.

    However, it is his local range and he doesn't want the deer hunters there or the range Nazis to help keep his range in order. Its his range. No doubt the range Nazis curtail some of his habits as well, otherwise he would welcome having proper staff there to handle the problems.

    Beltfed, it sounds like you get into fights all year 'round. Why is that?
     
  13. BeltfedMG

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    Fights as in arguements, some very heated, one almost got into fist fight.
    No i didnt keep shootin when the guys are goin down range. When your lookin threw the scope and out the corner of your eye you see something movin and its a idiot walkin down range as your fixin to shoot and you want to put it off on me? Get a life.

    As for cooperating, i do, i will go cold when asked, once again as long as its not another one of them kind that shoots one shot at the 300 yrd target, then wants to go cold so he can walk down to check it, then walk back, go hot, he shoots one rnd and wants to go cold again and repeat this process over and over. I dont deal with that too well.

    The range capt's have all dealt with this, everything i have just brought up they deal with also, thats why the rules are about to change with the place being manned all the time during deer season only.
     
  14. BeltfedMG

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    I fight several times a week, as a cage fighter its called training. But for some of you uptight guys to just blame me for what you know nothin of is funny. You guys dont have much to do with your time do you? Some of you approach things the right way, others come here just lookin to start a fight as seen in previous posts. Its easy to be tough on the computer isnt it?
     
  15. Eric F

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    Hey whats going on here? There have been plenty of posts where the Un savy shooter shows up and most of us here on THR will sympathize with the OP or atleast share a similar story. For what reason is his story any diffrent as the other threads where unfamiliar shooters show up and start doing dumb things?

    Lets try this

    Well its that time of yr, deer season coming and all the deer hunters that only shoot one time a yr come out to the public range and some are just unsafe. I remind more folks about safety this time yr then any other. Our range is 600 yrds long and 100-130 yrds wide. The most common thing is if im at the rt side of the range shootin and they are shootin on the left side they think its alright to just walk on down to the 100 yrd stands to check their targets while im still shootin, they seem oblivious to their unsafe behavior. These kind of safety violations absolutly drives me nuts. Then when you say something to them they act like they know what they are doing is safe, They hide behind excuses like "Im a vet, ex millitary, i know how to be safe around guns" is what i hear from time to time.

    Then theres the guys who aim the guns all over the place. Pointing loaded guns right at you and everyone else. Even seen them shoot holes in the roof of the pavilion and think nothin of it....They say It was a accident, so what.

    Its bad enough last yr the range capts decided that it may be mandatory during deer season and month or so before to have a range officers there to keep this stuff down. I dont want a manned range, its nice to go there and be alone sometimes. It seems that most of the guys who do these things are out of towwners, city boys that come out to hunt once a year. I assume city boys cause this is a small town 500 people so if i dont know em, they arent from around here chances are.

    Anyway, rant off but does anyone else notice the hightened dangers at the range with the once a year shooters?


    There is no need for this sensless gang keyboarding.........now apologize and go to your rooms!
     
  16. JWF III

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    I believe that everyone has hit the nail on the head. Be peaceable with them, deal with it, or don't go. I am an avid shooter, bird hunter, and a sometimes deer hunter. I take 8 to 10 rifles with me every time I go to the range. I set up 4 to 6 targets. The only bothersome complaint that I have about the same folks, is that they want to call a cold range every 5 minutes (sometimes not always). I've seen them set up 1 target, shoot 1 cartridge, and want to go see where they hit. They adjust the sights and do it again. I've often offered them use of my spotting scope just to make the range hot a little bit longer. Some have accepted my offer, others have not. But like I said, I just deal with it. I just get to take a break more often than I generally like.

    But then again, there's a lot to be said living 7 miles from the state owned and operated WMA range. I can go , almost, whenever I want, and shoot with the crowd (size) that I want.

    Wyman
     
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    Dear Mr. Belt,

    With only a few dozen posts, you are in no postion to judge the people on this forum. The High Road's membership is among the most knowledgable and honorable on the internet. Constructive criticism is always welcome; but a cage fighter who wants to impress others with his abilities might feel more comfortable on another forum.

    Humility is a virtue that is worth putting into practice. For many here it's reflected in all of their posts.
     
  18. bogie

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    I ain't afeared to cage-fight.

    I'll even take a handicap.

    Instead of two .45s, I'll go with a pair of 9mm berettas...

    Just call me Tequilla.
     
  19. Double Naught Spy

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    Well to answer your question, sure. Then again, such instances are usually handled quickly and easily with some nice chatting and everyone cooperates. There are no heated exchanges. Most of the deer hunters are a bit clueless, but more than apt to get get along.

    Easy to be tough on a keyboard? Sure. Just like it is easy to claim always being right, tough, a great shot, or of some super tough profession.

    Why do you ask?
     
  20. goon

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    I feel for you.
    I've dealt with some real morons at the range too and learned to generally just avoid the range during that one week before deer season.
    Only really had to deal with it once when a friend asked me to sight in his son's rifle before deer season. Fortunately, I was able to get it zeroed within a few shots and get out of there.

    One other time this "fudd" type showed up and started acting like a moron.
    He made no effort to pay attention to what others were doing, muzzle sweeped everyone, and had no idea of what hot or cold meant. Finally I got tired of his just blasting away haphazardly with full power .357's without telling anyone to cover their ears so I waited until he was at his bench with his back toward me and cut loose with an AK.
    He didn't have any hearing protection with him. The AK was enough to convince him to pack up and leave.
    Don't get me wrong - I've gotten to shoot a lot of cool guns at the range and some "morons" have even turned out to be mostly OK after I've seen them there a couple times. But there are some who can't be helped.

    FWIW, I also find it strange that out of a bazillion "moron at the range" threads, this is about the first one where the poster, a "regular" who doesn't just shoot once a year before deer season, is targeted as the problem.
    Can't say that I totally blame beltfed. Even during the off season, I've been tempted to buttstrike a few from time to time.
     
  21. BeltfedMG

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    Rioshooter, i agree with you on your post. But as nasty as some of these guys have gotten with name callin i havent stooped that low and im not gonna, argueing on the internet is just plain stupid. They attacked and i am just sittin back watchin the show. All it tells me is theres alot of city folk here that dont like bein called out.
     
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    Sometimes when I come here I have to think that this place is filled with anti(s) or kids. People do dangerous or rude things that make the OP mad causes others to say he is the problem?
    No, the people who are doing dangerous or inconsiderate things are the problem.
     
  23. cassandrasdaddy

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    sad to say that near here its a mix of locals and northern va refugees that do stupid gun tricks
     
  24. BeltfedMG

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    Oh we get our occasional yaho that comes in that needs corrected now and then but the real trouble starts from like here on threw deer season. Not sayin everyone here is gun safe 100%.
     
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    My only complaint about the hunters is that the private range I'm a member of opens up to the public for sight-ins on Sundays the month of September ... well I prefer to do much of my shooting on Sundays so the range is crowded :p

    But then again, there's plenty of range "nazis" keeping the riff-raff in line, so they don't cause trouble ... just crowds. And the money they spend for sight-ins ('cause it ain't free) helps keep my membership fees low.
     
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