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Defender of Waco Killers Found Dead in Texas

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  1. 2dogs

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    http://www.sierratimes.com/03/09/10/ap_dead_fed.htm

    Defender of Waco Killers Found Dead in Texas

    The Associated Press

    SOUR LAKE, Texas (AP) - A former federal prosecutor who defended the U.S. government in a lawsuit filed by surviving Branch Davidians was found dead of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound, authorities said.
    A police officer checking on an abandoned vehicle found the body of former U.S. Attorney J. Michael Bradford shortly before 7 p.m. Tuesday.

    ``He found a BMW, which was unusual, because it's a nice vehicle and it was parked out in the woods ... it had a briefcase in it, clothes and a sports jacket in it, so he started looking around,'' Hardin County Sheriff Ed Cain said.

    He said the officer found the body and a shotgun about 75 feet from the car. Cain said it appears the gunshot wound to the head was self-inflicted.

    ``It's pretty clear as to what happened,'' he said. ``We have no indication of foul play.''

    Bradford had been reported missing for about a day, investigators said.

    Cain said Bradford had some business affairs and other things, including a note, left behind that indicated that he planned to kill himself. Cain did not know what was in the note.

    Bradford represented the federal government in the 2000 trial of a $675 million wrongful death suit that surviving Branch Davidians and family members filed after the fiery end to the Branch Davidian standoff near Waco in 1993.

    Bradford, who had been in private practice recently with a Beaumont law firm, was appointed U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Texas in 1994. He served until May 2001. Before his appointment to the district that stretches from far southeast Texas to the Dallas area, he was a state district judge and a federal magistrate.

    He is survived by his wife, daughter and son.
     
  2. Kharn

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    Is half the shotgun nickel and half blue (ala Vince Foster)? :scrutiny:

    Kharn
     
  3. Tamara

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    Having to stand in a courtroom and publically justify the burning to death of infants and their mothers to their next of kin would probably have the same effect on me. :scrutiny:
     
  4. Joe Demko

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    Messy, no doubt.
     
  5. Henry Bowman

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    Tamara, you have been in rare form lately! :neener:
     
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    Those that work for the Devil will be destroyed by him sooner or later.
     
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    Don't worry. The government survives.
     
  8. JohnBT

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    My condolences to his family.

    John

    P.S. - I hope nobody pulls a muscle jumping up and down celebrating this man's death.
     
  9. ACP

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    Yeah, it's a shame what David Koresh did to his own people.
     
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    Post in poor taste, so deleted.
     
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  11. cordex

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    Good news for those who decide to live by the gun.
    I sure as hell won't. This guy didn't do any of the killing himself. He did as he was told and defended those that did some killing. May not make him my bestest friend, but it doesn't mean I'll rejoice at his death.
    My condolences go out to his family. They didn't deserve this.
    Yep. Koresh was a nut who caused his followers some serious troubles.
    But what really sickens me is that the BATFE and FBI thought it necessary to play soldier and assault the Davidian's church, school and homes with full ninja gear - thus leading directly to the deaths of more than 80 people (some of them federal agents). Over some alleged unpaid taxes.

    Was it really worth it?

    By the way, Tamara; on your recommendation, I read Cold Zero - a very good book. Thank you for suggesting it.
     
  12. Quartus

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    It's sickening how many people whoh CALL themselves patriotic Americans will justify murder by Federal agents simply because the murder victims were weird.
     
  13. NIGHTWATCH

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    Im with you Quartus. ;)

    We get "Patriotic" when OUR particular freedom is under attack from those who think we are a little off, maybe even dangerous. Then turn ourselves against someone elses freedom or support the government in destroying someone elses freedom.

    When are people going to get it? ALL freedom must be secure. :banghead:
     
  14. Dannyboy

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    OK, let's see if I got this right. This guy was a baaaad man because he did his job as a US Attorney (defending the gov't., not the individuals) but Koresh was just "misunderstood?" Riiiight!

    Comic relief, that's what I love about this place.
     
  15. cordex

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    No, this guy was just a man who was forced to do something extremely distasteful. He was forced to say "Yeah, we were right in sending cattle-cars full of shock troops to collect a few hundred dollars in unpaid taxes." and ignore the fact that the operation lead to many unnecessary deaths. Perhaps this weighed on him and caused him to take his own life. Perhaps it had nothing to do with it. I don't know.

    David Koresh was a pedophile (albeit one who got consent from the parents), a misguided preacher and a bad guitarist. He deserved psychological counseling, and serious jail time for abusing kids. He did not deserve to be the target of a military style assault which lead to his roasting. And his followers certainly didn't deserve what happened to them.

    The BATF agents who stormed the church, school and homes of the Davidians like a bunch of wannabe Army Rangers and turned an alleged unpaid tax violation into a small war because they wanted to be able to show off video to the Budgetary Committee ... well ... those are the real scum.
     
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    Well said, cordex...:D

    As for the recently deceased: I am sitting at home today without a job. Why? I decided that it was more important to stand up for my principals; oppose an administrative decision that brings a great deal of unnecesary risk to an incarcerated youth, his family, his community, and the facility I worked for; and was forced to resign as a result. While I wish I still had a job, I don't regret my position in the least...

    ...and I don't buy the "he was just following his orders" defense either. He had the same choice I did. He knew what he was doing & did it anyway. If that weighed too heavily on his conscious--it was his decision. If it didn't, it seems to have weighed on someone's ...:scrutiny:

    At least I'm able to live with my decision without the need to swallow buckshot...:uhoh:
     
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    and even that's highly dubious, and the child abuse investigation (happened before the... err, mass-suicide) stopped through complete lack of evidence.
     
  18. Shooter 2.5

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    "Is half the shotgun nickel and half blue (ala Vince Foster)?"

    Kharn


    That's one of the BS stories put out by the tinfoil hat squad about the Foster case.

    It's one thing to discuss the discrepencies about the case without trying for a list. The weird thing is if you go to one of the conspiracy websites, they even posted the interview where the Nickled pistol was discussed which ruined their "argument".
     
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    But even if it were demonstrably true, and there was video of him raping six year olds every day of his adult life, it still wouldn't excuse BATF agents running in and playing stormtrooper as that is a state matter, not a federal one. Much less the purview of a tax agency.
     
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    Seeker, thanks for posting it before I did. You said it a lot better too. Not only that though is they are supposed to know better and it is NOT a valid defense. The nazis were just following orders to. Nuremburg trumped that, and as far as I am concerned it applies here especially to those entrusted with powers of law enforcement.
     
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    poor guitarist?

    What made you say that?
    He was much,much better then pop star Madonna...:neener:
     
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    And I'm far less evil than Hitler. Doesn't make me a good guy. *grin*

    His big dream was to be a rock star. When he failed that, he decided to be a messiah.
    *shakes head*
     
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    I have as much sympathy for this guy as I have for David Koresh...
     
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    This was about 1 mile from my house. It was a big shock to the community. My personal feelings were that he was a zealous prosecutor and good attorney but I was not a fan of his political leanings. He was, however, a decent fellow and a father to two young children.

    Myths, facts, what's the difference when you're trying to make a point, right?
     
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    The BATF's raid lead directly to the deaths of over 80 people - including women and children.
    This is fact.
    Defending a raid that caused so much death and destruction - regardless of who actually lit the final fires - isn't easy. Even before the place started smoking, remember that a swarm of ATF tax collection agents charged the place like a bunch of first-graders trying to play Army man over a few hundred dollars in taxes. Regardless of the actions on either side that followed, could you defend that?
     
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