Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by horsemen61, Oct 10, 2021.
I don’t have that ability- I do have the target from when it was built. The company really stands behind the accuracy guarantee. It is a exceptionally accurate rifle.
A rifle so light in weight I don’t care to shoot or own one except maybe a .243.
I was with you till the horse parts. A real mountain man takes a mule. A horse in the mountains is like a sport car on a dirt road.
Recoilless.... the ultimate "Mountain Rifle"!
106mm Recoilless Rifle with the Ritter Range in the backround.
For backpack hunting Mule deer in the mountains pictured above I used a Remington 700 Mountain Rifle™ in 7mm X 57mm Mauser wearing a 4X Luey M8
For me, that boils down to defining “mountain rifle” as a relatively lighter rifle than I might otherwise use at home, but also chambered in a more powerful cartridge than I might use at home, capable of allowing me to place a 600-750yrd shot with increased confidence in blood letting and fast anchoring.
Far from what I consider to be ideal, my current mountain rifle for about 6yrs has been a Ruger M77 Hawkeye All-Weather in 300 Win Mag, which I restocked into a stiffer Boyd’s laminate stock. All in, as hunted, it’s over 11lbs.
If I had my druthers and spent the money for an ideal rifle, as mentioned in the other mountain rifle thread, I’d build a Seekins Havak Element (aluminum receiver) with a carbon fiber wrapped Bartlein barrel, using the extra length Seekins short action carbon fiber magazine system in a mid weight McMillan Game Warden stock, chambered in 6.5 PRC. I’d be content with this, replacing the 7mm Rem Mags I’ve also used up-mountain many trips, capable of deer, elk, or bear out to 750yrds.
and reliable accuracy to put it all together under any condition. These rifles, both .280 Rems, have been to the mountain many times over and fill the bill. The lower rifle is a Ultra Light Arms M-24, weight totals 6 lbs, even with the pudgy 3-10X Swarovski scope. Top rifle was built with calculated plans to save weight, beginning with small ring BRNO Mauser action. With super-light YAMA wood stock, light alloy scope mounts and bottom metal and 6X Leupold, weight comes to 6 lb 10 ozs.
Depends on the horse, we've had some great mountain horses at our disposal growing up. But they spent their youth transporting their owners up canyon and mountain trails, at never more than a trot.
Compared to some rifles, it’s got a medium to light barrel profile, slightly shorter barrel (I think), and a slim stock. I suppose those features make it a “Mt Rifle”. I’m not sure, but I’m happy with it and I’d be happy with a non Mt Rifle too if that’s what I had.
Ive killed a bunch of deer with it, which is my primary concern so I’m not in the market for another.
The Recoilless Rifles above skins the snow right off of them. First layer of rock too, depending on how thick the snow is, and whether you used WP or HE loads.
Similarly, a mountain rifle would be a rifle built for similar terrain. For purposes of hiking and potentially even climbing it would need to be light. For use in the woods it would need to be compact. For mountain critters like deer, elk, sheep, bear etc it would need to be somewhat powerful so I would say something based on a .308 case or larger would be adequate if not optimal. Take all that into consideration and then plan on the rifle being dragged up the mountain beating and banging off of things along the way, so you go durable. Stainless steel and plastic… preferably with a matte finish. Forget the scope altogether because for the way a true mountain rifle would be used, a scope isn’t going to hold zero. Very robust and fast iron sights would be an absolute must.
Yeah, it seems like it would be quite different than skinning a scout.
Scouts are pretty rare any more aren't they?
Though there are a few horses that are excellent in the mountains, as a rule a mule or a hinny will be better. And of course there are very few hinny’s in the U.S. Producing a hinny in the states is usually a mistake. Hinny’s are as popular or more popular than mules in some countries for mountain riding and packing.
My current and most used mountain hunting rifle is a SS Winchester Model 70 in .30-06 that I bought around 1994. I ditched the factory stock years ago and put on an HS Precision. It has a Leupold VXIII 3.5x10 that is a good balance and allows me to shoot up close when needed or stretch the legs out to about 300 yards. I will admit that I am not good enough to shoot at a deer sized animal from field positions past 300 yards or so. I also find the most enjoyment from stalking game, so longer shots take some of the fun out of the game. It shoots under an inch and slay all things that I might come across. I have thought about replacing it many times, but in reality I will use it until I can't hunt anymore. We get along good together and it has proven to be a reliable friend over the year.
I do appreciate all of the advancement is rifles, scopes, and stocks over the years. I see the value in these advancements but I just can't see how they would greatly benefit me over my present rifle.
That was one of my first thoughts as well. 10 yes as a CW reenactor I've seen a few up close and personal, the concussion I'd one shot almost knocked me over from a kneeling position.
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