Democrats accused of racist attitudes

[Justin Moore]

Seems like I struck a nerve somewhere..maybe you should visit the Aryan nations website to check out their views on gun control...they hate too..

A completely apalling ad hominem attack, straight out of
the Democrat playbook, namely: if you are to the right you
are naturally a racist, Aryan Nations type.

Why is that Democrats, who are supposedly VERY Pro 1st Amendment, allways throw out the word 'hate' when someone
on the 'right' says something they don't agree with? Interesting
isn't it?

ACLU defending the sale of porn=freedom of speech
2dogs=Aryan Hate Monger (not)

[sarcasm]2dogs, You're welcome to come over and help me
polish my Iron Cross any day you care to[/sarcasm]

 

[dave]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

The best and fastest way for one to be called a racist.........is to start winning an argument with a liberal.

 

[2nd Amendment]

Ill use your words 2nd A, slightly modified:

Of course you will. Dealing with them as stated would be too difficult.

"I hate that small number of Leftist Elitists who drive on "what I define as anti-American agenda that despises everything that I think ever made this nation great. They truly do disgust me. "

It isn't what I define. The reason you add these words is because you are quite aware of that fact and have to find a way to marginalize what I say. Contrasting the things you have stated you support with the history of this nation AND the most recent five decades shows it as not only anti-American but horribly flawed. An abject failure clung to by a certain type of would be social engineer more concerned with their own opinion of how things should be that with what works and what is best for the most, as opposed to what puts power and control with the self assumed Elite.

You said it, not me...case closed.

The Nazi card, then multiple ad hominem attacks, generalized labeling of the majority of membvers of the site you're posting on, now the "I've won and that's that" angle of "attack". Do you have any experience with debate? If so how could you commit practically every fatal mistake in less than six posts?

 

[2nd Amendment]

forquidder, thx.

Dave, I'd be LMAO except that I've actually had the experience practically everytime I wind up "debating" a leftist. I almost believe them, I've heard it so much.

 

[Oleg Volk]

That's hardly comparable to the generic hate and jealousy of Muslims for all of us.

Yes, the Muslims hate us so much that one of them was instrumental in making The High Road forum possible. They so much hate us that they show up in my pro-RKBA posters. They may or may not be typical (in my experience, that's typical behavior and not an aberration), but that's immaterial: how an you justify dismissing the individuals who go out of your way to help you in achieving a common goal?

I think you are confusing adherents of a religion with the totalitarian governments hiding behind the trappings of that religion. We can cite examples of such abuses by any religion, be it "peaceful" Shintoism or "psycho" Islam. Muslims (and Christians and atheists and every other religion you can think of) are represented among Americans...who generally wanted to get away from the state-coopted version of it.

Lest you think that locals want their religion merge with the state, here's a non-verbatim quote from one of the Christian members of this forum: "Bush's faith-based initiatives will be the death of all of us." Muslims don't hate you any more than Buddhists or Christians do. Most of them don't know you or care about matters not related to their family, their job and their hobbies. That some foreign government has coopted their faith in an effort to pit them against us isn't the fault of the people who moved half a world away just to get away from the same thugs.

 

[2nd Amendment]

Tell that to the "radical Islamists" in the Middle East and cities across America who danced in the street after 9/11. Men, women, children. Funny, I didn't see a government official in the lot.

Screw it. Let's all let the Dems and their special interest lackeys run wild and see where we wind up in ten years, with Hillary as pres, a Dem House and Senate and Freedom just a bitter memory. Let's see whose 'vision" destroys this nation.

There's not the slightest doubt which it will be among those who aren't so blinded by the need to be "tolerant" that they can't see a damn thing clearly at this point.

 

[Wildalaska]

generalized labeling of the majority of membvers of the site you're posting on

Really? You are saying that the majority of posters on this site are Haters?

 

[Wildalaska]

Let's all let the Dems and their special interest lackeys run wild and see where we wind up in ten years, with Hillary as pres, a Dem House and Senate and Freedom just a bitter memory.

Funny, seems to me that the Homelands Security Act is a Republican Invention..

love to hear what a special interest lackey is...probably someone whose politics you disagree with...

 

[2dogs]

That some foreign government has coopted their faith

Oleg

I don't think it is a matter of government coopting the faith- the suicide bombers in Israel, the 9/11 hijackers, the extremist Muslims killing Christians all over the world- this is not the work of governments. To the extent that governments may be involved it seems that they are by lending covert support to these terrorists.

No one is saying that all Muslims are extremists or support terrorism. However I think that there is substantial evidence of support around the world by Muslims for the extremists. And in this country there has been an almost deafening silence among Muslim leaders in condemning what happened on 9/11 and around the world in their name.

 

[2nd Amendment]

Really? You are saying that the majority of posters on this site are Haters?

You've already tried this one, Wild. I pointed out then that you missed the entire point of what I said. You ignored that. Again I'll tell you to read it again. until then you're just spinning your wheels.

 

[2nd Amendment]

Funny, seems to me that the Homelands Security Act is a Republican Invention..

Please show where I have heaped accolades upon the Republican Party? Please show where I have in any way indicated they are anything other than yet another party of Big Government?

love to hear what a special interest lackey is...probably someone whose politics you disagree with...

Why not have some examples? HCI ring a bell? Various homosexual lobbies? The Abortion lobby? Labor Unions? The Green Freaks? Animal "rights" nuts? Sharpton? Jackson? These are the people who ARE the Dem leadership. I presume you agree with them? No? You do every time you vote that Dem Party line.

 

[Justin Moore]

Funny, seems to me that the Homelands Security Act is a Republican Invention..

Funny, I thought Joe Lieberman was pimping Homeland Security MONTHS before the Bush Administration was. I guess pointing
that out probably makes me a right wing 'hater'

2nd Amendment,

Unfortuneately, I think your assessment of the Republic
party is for the most part correct, with a few exceptions
like Virgil Goode, Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and Dick
Armey. I'm sure I left a few out of that list. The 'neocon' proto-
socialists have seemingly taken control. Its rather ironic that
most of them are 'reformed' leftists, don't you think?

Anyway, enough 'thoughtcrime' for today

 

[Wildalaska]

HCI ring a bell? Various homosexual lobbies? The Abortion lobby? Labor Unions? The Green Freaks? Animal "rights" nuts? Sharpton? Jackson? These are the people who ARE the Dem leadership. I presume you agree with them? No? You do every time you vote that Dem Party line.

Just as I thought.

Someday I can see you having a major problem when the Presidential election pits a homosexual pro choice woman who is an avid supporter of gun rights versus an anti abortion, anti gay man who supports trigger locks..

Oh I know your next comment.."if they are pro choice they would never be pro gun"...

 

[2nd Amendment]

Please spare us the euphemisms. It's a choice whether to have sex or not. Afterwards it's abortion. I'd remind you that "Fetus" is Latin for "Baby, in case you think by refusing to use words like abortion and baby...and murder...you're somehow fooling someone.

There will never be the candidates you describe in contention for the office of president.

Just as you thought? What did you think? Again, as is par for the course with Leftists, you ignored at least half the post and the half you ignored is the part contiguous to the issue at hand. Again I'll say try again. Right now you're merely embarrassing yourself.

 

[Preacherman]

I'm afraid that some of us still have a long way to go to implement the ideals for which we strive on The High Road. I quote from the Rules of Conduct:

Spamming, trolling, flaming, and personal attacks are prohibited. You can disagree with other members, even vehemently, but it must be done in a well-mannered form. Attack the argument, not the arguer.

In this thread we've had people accusing each other of supporting differing beliefs; intolerance; personal accusations; and a host of things that I really don't want to see on this forum at all.

Let me say it again: attack the argument, not the arguer! It is NEVER appropriate or permissible to slander, or level accusations against, or express personal contempt for, another High Roader, just because they hold opinions that differ strongly from your own. This is simply not acceptable. If this continues to be a problem (whether on the Legal & Political forum, or anywhere on THR) be sure that strong action will be taken to correct the situation and implement our Forum policies.

This thread is now closed. I hope this will give those involved (and I'm sure I don't have to name them) a chance to cool off and think about what I've said here.