Denver Fox31 News Undercover ArmsList 'Stings' *continued... So they bought some guns

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Much too long to explain here, but prison tats tell their own story if you can read them. And if you can, they are not easily confused with the work of an outside artist.
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Key word being "if you can read them"......

Seeing as I've never been in prison, nor do I readily associate with those that have......unless the guy literally has 'FELON' tattooed on his forehead, I wouldn't know 'prison ink' if it slapped me in the face.

So IDE imagine that leaves me 2 options.... Either I must become a master tattoo interpreter

..or I can just avoid people with tattoos.....

An seeing as neither of those are going to happen, i am going to continue to judge people on their actions rather than their looks.
 
I discretion is the better part of valor. If you find yourself in a deal with somebody who leads you to believe, for whatever reason, that they will use the gun for a nefarious purpose, you should back out of the sale. Make an excuse "oops, I have two of these in the safe, this is the broken one, I grabbed it by mistake" or something and be on your way. When you are clear of the scene, contact them and say you have decided not to sell after all.

I ALWAYS set my meet-up spots for the parking lot of an open business. I like grocery stores or big box stores. I assume they have cameras monitoring the parking lots so people are less likely to get try anything. This is true no matter what I'm selling or buying.
 
Seeing as I've never been in prison, nor do I readily associate with those that have......unless the guy literally has 'FELON' tattooed on his forehead, I wouldn't know 'prison ink' if it slapped me in the face.
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Try Googling "prison ink". ;) It's a start.

(If anyone wants the information on how to identify prison ink, they can find it. If they don't want it, they can ignore it. It's a matter of personal choice.)
 
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I googled "prison ink".

I get pages of instructions on how to make ink out of cans and baby oil and cotton, and ink guns out of transistors and nails and magnets in prison. Am I supposed to question the buyer to determine if he has some knowledge of this?
 
Okay, okay, okay; enough with the tattoo side-talk. This thread is supposed to be about the media thugs. Go start a thread on the merits of the old adage 'for man judges at the outward appearance', and beat each other up over there.
 
If the reporter wanted to really have a story he should go to Chicago, NYC, DC and show us how easy it is to buy a gun in an alley or parking lot. He might meet some less savory characters than he found in the Denver Burbs and if caught making their towns look bad would face some serious heat from the mayors and police chiefs.
 
...he should go to Chicago, NYC, DC and show us how easy it is to buy a gun in an alley...
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That might rival the risks taken by embedded war correspondents in the middle east! You might not make it out alive!

But that's one thing that struck me about his tantrum regarding the open, daylight public locations the sellers chose.

Did he honestly want to do this at night in an Aurora alleyway? I totally miss what he's suggesting there. If the parking lot of Babies 'R Us is not a safe location, what is?

I suppose that he's implying that it is a danger to the public for such legal activities to take place in such harmless places.
 
I ALWAYS set my meet-up spots for the parking lot of an open business. I like grocery stores or big box stores. I assume they have cameras monitoring the parking lots so people are less likely to get try anything. This is true no matter what I'm selling or buying.
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Same here. While I don't check ID, I don't live near my state's border, and I always have a look a the license plate. I have sold/purchased guns to/from a wide variety of folk, including one LE officer. I only back out of a transaction if anything starts looking fishy... if I have any reason whatsoever to believe that this person is not on the up and up. Examples might include a car full of nefarious looking people (in this case, I am allowed to judge a book by its cover. So don't show up in prison stripes), an out of state tag, taking money from someone else in the car to pay for a firearm (straw purchase), etc. To date, I have only backed out of one (out of a dozen) transactions.
 
So... reporters created a story out of nothing, and then made an attempt to sensationalize it to push an agenda. That's not exactly new tactics.

What have you done to set them straight?
 
License plates are a good unofficial check on residency. Some folks will move and get new plates on their vehicles, but keep the old drivers license until it expires which is typically years rather than "year".

I would imagine that the seller of the firearms was selling to the reporter who I belive was a CO resident. If they were not allowed to purchase a firearm, then they should be in legal hot water.

The 40% number is pretty much BS.
 
Do you really want to leave that decision up to a court? Whenever I sell a firearm in a private transaction, I require that they either show me a concealed carry permit or handgun purchase permit (if it's a handgun). I also get a copy of their ID and we both sign a copy of a bill of sale. I have a file in my filing cabinet just for such sales. I even have a copy of my mom's license and a bill of sale for a handgun I sold to her.
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If I were to sell a gun I would do exactly what is required of my by law. No more, no less. I see anything more as giving into the anti's.

"Look! We might as well make this a requirement, because they do it anyway!"

Like I said, if it makes you feel warm n fuzzy, go for it. I've done what I'm responsible for, and I'll sleep just fine for it.
 
Did he honestly want to do this at night in an Aurora alleyway? I totally miss what he's suggesting there. If the parking lot of Babies 'R Us is not a safe location, what is?
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You missed their point because your mind isn't used to twisting things to fit a specific agenda.


Their point is " Even Babies R Us isn't safe. Assault weapons are being bought and sold by complete strangers. The same assault weapons that kill dozens of innocent children. ".
 
Did anybody else notice the KDVR poll where 84.5% of the respondents voted against universal background checks (out of 2710 total votes)? Sure does contradict the Washington Post's survey that 90% favor universal gun checks (out of 1001 total respondents).
 
This Fox story really pissed me off. They seemed really focused on the Babies R Us sale, even though the sale had nothing to do with babies.

The part that bothered me the most though was that I immediately recognized the shooting range. It is the private (members only) WHAC range near Brighton, to which I belong (along with some other High Roaders). I talked with one of the two guys who operate this range, and they were not aware that this story was being filmed there. So, it means that one of the members of our range allowed these idiots onto the property to film their anti-gun story.
 
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Did anybody else notice the KDVR poll where 84.5% of the respondents voted against universal background checks (out of 2710 total votes)? Sure does contradict the Washington Post's survey that 90% favor universal gun checks (out of 1001 total respondents).
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Nothing new about that. Head to whitehouse.gov and sign up for regular updates from the President's staff. The BS they send out is even worse.
 
Only tangentially related, but the most irritating thing about that article was this:

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Another guy hocking a highly modified AR15 met us at a Jefferson County Walmart — right under the security cameras.
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Hocking= Severing the tendons of the hock, the joint that is the equivalent of the ankle in horse-like quadripeds.

Hawking= Engaging in the sport of falconry, or, selling goods for a living.

Neither is correct, since there was no evidence that the AR-15 seller was engaged in selling firearms for a business.

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...the sale had nothing to do with babies.
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That's why they went to great length to make their story about babies, er... the safety of the mommas and babies going into that store, I suppose. :confused: That's what I believe they had to be implying.
...one of the members of our range allowed these idiots onto the property to film their anti-gun story.
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Did you notice that Reporter Josh fired the rifle with the rear sight flipped up and flipped down. :scrutiny: He sure is a dim bulb.
 
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So, it means that one of the members of our range allowed these idiots onto the property to film their anti-gun story.
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A State legislator in Virginia was waving around an AK with his finger on the trigger in the state Capitol....he was of course using it as a prop to promote his AWB bill. He said a friend lent it to him.

So he has friends who own guns which he doesn't think they should be allowed to own, and his friends were stupid enough to lend the gun to him to further his cause of making their property illegal.....inconceivable.

Luckily in Virginia his bill had no chance at all...didn't even get close to leaving committee
 
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Only tangentially related, but the most irritating thing about that article was this:

Hocking= Severing the tendons of the hock, the joint that is the equivalent of the ankle in horse-like quadripeds.

Hawking= Engaging in the sport of falconry, or, selling goods for a living.

Neither is correct, since there was no evidence that the AR-15 seller was engaged in selling firearms for a business.

#CopyEditingFail
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The word 'hawking' is often used to describe the act of selling merchandise. Dictionary.net includes the following definition:

Hawking

noun

the act of selling goods for a living
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So he has friends who own guns which he doesn't think they should be allowed to own...
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I don't believe this to be true. His friends are well connected and I suppose this would either exclude them from his AWB, or at least it is qualified within his own view of firearms ownership. He might support their right to own that AK... because they happen to know him.

You though... not being connected well enough, must surrender your rights to the government... and like it.
 
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