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Derrginer Rider? Anyone got one... .17 balls anyone?

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Mp7, Sep 22, 2008.

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  1. Mp7

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    Hi Guys,

    i just had UPS deliver my freshly auctioned
    Derringer Rider Replica.

    [​IMG]

    ...wherethe.. do i get 4,3mm /.17 lead balls for it??
    Has anyone epxerimented with adding a tiny bit of propellant
    to the cap... for more pleasure?

    Cheers, Mp7
     
  2. 1858rem

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    neat little guns there, i think bbs for bb guns are too big... so dont try shooting them, not to mention they are steel. you could try some haevy shot sizes, try a box loaded with #2 shot, #4 is too small, and you may actually have to go to buckshot. that would be a good starting point though.
     
  3. DrLaw

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    Cap only, no powder

    Everything I have seen on these little guns say, no powder. Cap pressure only.

    As for lead balls, you might try Midway. I think one of the BB manufacturers they list makes lead ball BB's. I think Cabela's and Dixie carry the .17 balls, too.

    The Doc is out now. :cool:
     
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    cap only. hmmm good thing i dont have one. i would be too tempted to put in a couple of grains of holy black in there
     
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    Number "B" shot is .17. That is not "BB" which is .18
     
  8. Mp7

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    Thanks guys, ...i already found a source for them... at pharmacy-prices though.

    like 20$ for 500 balls..... but hey...

    (Had a **** workweek... like 70+ hours.. i think i´ll
    borrow a .50AE at the range and do some boooom!)
     
  9. HisSoldier

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    I was looking at one of those too, and found a site that mentioned some brand of conical pellets that are heavier than common pellets. I don't see what trying a run of the mill pellet would hurt.
     
  10. Mp7

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    ..yeah - plus with only a cap behind it - i don´t see heavier bullets improving anything.
     
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    Hey MP7, did you shoot that Rider yet? How about a report.......please!!
     
  13. mec

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    I saw a post a couple of years ago from a guy who had shot .177 pellets in his. You might even be able to stuff a few tenths grain in the base of a diabolo pellet. Probably wouldn't hurt anything unless it blew out the nose of the pellet. If that happened you could push out the skirt with a rod of some sort.
    Back in the 60s, some gunwriter converted a K22 to shoot pellets powered by small pistol primers. It worked very well. I trided shooting 22 pellets out of my colt buntline scout powered by acorn blanks but hose things woud just blow a hole out the end of the pellet.
     
  14. Mp7

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    :)

    Yep - it does work.

    Like seen in the utube vids - usually the first trigger-pull
    only pushes the cap tighter onto the piston.
    The second triggerpull then does the job.

    i just received the ball-ammo, so it will be tryouts tonite :)
    already shot a little flare-ball i took from a new-years rocket!
    That was really cool. It flew like 20ft.

    a fun lil gun-thingy!
     
  15. RyanM

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    I suspect any powder at all would blow off the tip. I epoxied a short length of .22 barrel (one of them things for converting a brass cap and ball derringer into a .22) into a .40 S&W case, awhile ago. With a CCI small pistol primer (CCIs are supposed to be the "coolest" primers on the market), 9 out of 10 shots, only the tip exits, and then I have to dig the skirt out.

    That guy's converted K22 probably had more of a gap between the primer and pellet.
     
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