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Dianne Feinstein to Propose New Ban On So-Called "Assault Weapons" Today at 11am EDT

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Justin, Jan 24, 2013.

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  1. Tom488

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    You have to remember that this isn't the whole picture... the Charger would fall under the expanded definition of "assault pistol", in that it can accept a magazine outside of it's pistol grip. And the M1As will qualify as an assault rifle, because of either their flash suppressor, or their threaded barrel. Even the CA-compliant M1As with their compensators, instead of flash suppressors, will qualify as an assault rifle under her proposed legislation.
     
  2. Zoogster

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    It would just be a matter of time before it was amended.

    They already started to treat the mini-14 as an 'Assault Weapon' after some years of the last federal AWB being in place and were looking to get rid of it.
    I believe some locations started to include it, like the restrictions in Cook County IL.
    It became a popular .223 rifle with detachable magazine during the AWB, and so became the next target.
    Had the AWB not sunset it would have been amended to include those types of things that had replaced what they were targeting.

    They would certainly be back for the M1A if they passed something like this. With all the same arguments they can use for the AR-15. They can say all the things they do about why citizens shouldn't have weapons of war, how the M16/AR15 is meant for the battlefield etc The M1A is after all to the M14 as the AR15 is to the M16.




    Some of these definitions are also pretty broad. They say all AR rifles, and then they give many examples of what they consider an AR rifle, including several things that are not AR rifles.
    They also seem to ban entire companies.
    All thompson rifles? All DPMS 'Tactical' rifles?
    So they can't even make a compliant model and are banned by brand name? Or just those models that exist prior to the legislation?
    It would be a real mess.
    All AR and AK types would seem to give a discretionary power to some authority, presumably ending up with the ATF to determine whether something was or was not an AR or AK.
     
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  3. Skribs

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    What about the Fulton Armory EBR? That's an M1A (well they call it M-14) that has all of these detestable features.

    Have rails been mentioned as a specific feature? Personally, I would think that any feature we consider to be tacticool would be what they would go after, not just those which sound scary.

    I'm also surprised they're not going after all semi-auto shotguns. Why the SPAS-12 and not the Benelli M2-4, Mossberg 930, Remington 1100...I could easily see the anti's saying that pump shotguns are for hunting, doubles are for sports, and semi-autos are only for killing.
     
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    Obviously we haven't seen the actual bill yet, but I thought I read somewhere that they were backing off the completely superficial evil characteristics (e.g. bayonet lug, grenade launcher and flash hider) so they could focus on the slightly less superficial evil characteristics (e.g. pistol grips and telescoping stocks).
     
  5. The Teacher

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    Some links to federal events on gun control

    Here are some more links to recent "Gun Violence Task Force" public events on C-SPAN. Some of this is definitely worth watching:

    Gun Violence Prevention Public Forum (1/10/13) - http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/310301-1

    Gun Violence Prevention Public Forum (1/16/13) - http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/310413-1

    Congressional Gun Violence Task Force Meeting (1/23/13) - http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/310554-1

    Assault Weapons Bill Press Conference (1/24/13) - http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/310581-1
     
  6. razorback2003

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    These worthless politicians by and large have not worked a real job in 20 to 30 years. Make 150 K a year plus living and travel expenses to work a part time job paid for by my dollar. Then on top of it they are protected by us marshals, capital police, or can get a badge and gun issued to them and be 'deputized'.

    I believe in term limits and most should not have more than one term.
     
  7. Pocket Rocket

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    Would this bill make it out of committee?

    Here's the current listing of the Judiciary Committee:

    http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/about/members.cfm

    With list weighted in favor of anti-gun democrats, is there any chance it will die in committee? Are there any procedures the pro-gun Senators can use to allow it to die in committee?
     
  8. Skribs

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    Razorback, they should have 2 terms: one in congress, one in prison.
     
  9. Justin

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    Feinstein's proposal would make a gun illegal if it has one "evil feature" rather than two, like in the previous ban.

    Also, she removed flash hiders from the list of "evil features."
     
  10. Skribs

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    Isn't that considered "compromise?"
     
  11. Justin

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    In her world, I suppose it is.
     
  12. PGT

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    An M&P 15-22 is on the list but NOT a Sig 556 rifle? :huh:

    I made up this picture as troll bait (hint; same 10/22 with 10rd mag)

    scaryguns.jpg
     
  13. breakingcontact

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    I dont give a care about her list and I'm not scrambling for ways to get around the guns listed. We need to stand with the NRA and not give up one inch.
     
  14. Skribs

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    My comments about what is and is not on the list wasn't about trying to find a way around it...it was about noticing that some moderately popular items are on there, but a lot of similar items are not.

    My comments about trying to get around it are from the perspective (hope it doesn't, but if it does I will...)

    PGT, just to clarify...are those both the exact same weapon, just the bottom one has different furniture?
     
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    Correct. The top one is a Ruger 10/22RB with 10rd rotary magazine. The bottom is an Archangel Nomad kit for the 10/22 that keeps the entire action but adds the new G36 clone chassis and a full size magazine that uses the rotary feed at the top. (To be fair, there are 25rd versions of the magazine and Archangel has two P/N's....one 10rd and one 25rd. Ruger also sells 25rd magazines so its a draw there.)
     
  16. Skribs

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    Yep. I still say my favorite is my anti coworker commenting on me looking at POF rifles online. The ONLY difference between the "Tactical" and "Hunting/Sniper" models is that the tactical rifle has a full-length quad-rail and the hunting/sniper model has a half-length quad rail. She's fine with people being able to buy the tactical model. "But you mean anyone can just buy a sniper rifle?"

    "It only has to do with the length of the accessory rails, and has nothing to do with its effectiveness as a sniper rifle."

    "BUT IT SAYS SNIPER!"
     
  17. PGT

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    just tell them you're buying a Remi 700. :neener: They don't need to know its the basis for the M24. :banghead:
     
  18. loose noose

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    Well what can I say Diane Feinstein, and Barbara Boxer are California products that have never had a real job in there whole lifes, what are term limits as far as they are concerned?! But like someone else said with the Obama administration, who cares little if any about the US Constitution, I would not be surprised if the gun ban suceeds.:mad:
     
  19. rtz

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    Is there any way we can go after Feinstein's job and get her removed from office?
     
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    Convince people to not vote for her next time she's up for reelection.
     
  21. Fryerpower

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    I just sent another round of letters to my rep & senators. Please do the same for yours!

    Jim
     
  22. Outlaw Man

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    I also had to laugh at how they recruited a police commissioner who has obviously never hunted anything larger than prairie dogs. No food left? Those 55 grain bullets sure do a number on a 700 pound elk...
     
  23. thorazine

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    It's CA.

    They'll keep voting her back in every election.


    But she's seventy nine years old so eventually she'll just retire for good... :D

    The sooner the better.
     
  24. 19-3Ben

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    I'm so conflicted!!! There's a gun that's missing from that list that is likely an oversight on their part. I want to discuss it and the legality of that gun (to confirm that it would not be banned even by secondary definition), but on the other hand, I don't want one of DF's interns reading posts here, seeing that gun listed and getting ideas!!!
     
  25. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    Just post the damn thing, it's not like some intern is going to run onto the Senate floor screaming, "WAIT! WAIT! WE MISSED ONE!!!" :rolleyes:
     
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