Differences in SA and FA for Ak-47's?

[MasterSergeantA]

In all seriousness where are you finding those? I spend quite a bit of time looking around shops/internet sites that sell full autos and I've occasionally seen FA ARs in the 13k range but average price seems to be much closer to 17-20k at the moment. For 10k I'd be really interested.

Not $10K, but $11K. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=145783
Factory Colts bring more because of the name recognition, but the registered receiver guns don't run as high.

Another... http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=145622

Now as to AKs...
http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=145778

 

[Zombiphobia]

It's called an AK-12 because it came out in 2012, not because of a caliber, much like the AK-47.

oh ok, thanks for clearing that up.

 

[mortablunt]

The selector lever for automatic on a Kalashnikov is actually the middle position. I don't know too much about what inside makes the difference. You cannot get a 'new' assault rifle in the U.S.A., because of the Hughes Amendment, which is part of FOPA 86. Proposed by Senator John Hughes of New Jersey, the amendment made it so that no new MG's could enter the civilian market is they had not been already registered by 1986. 26 years later and prices are through the roof.

 

[Zombiphobia]

Man, that's pretty messed up. I think the US would do just fine without any more politicians like that.

 

[Fluxeii]

I apologize on behalf of NJ gun owners, our senators are scum plain and simple.

 

[Ingsoc75]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Hughes

 

[mboylan]

I think that something like the Hughes amendment would have passed into law during the 1986-1994 time frame given the political climate of that time. I am happy that an even more restrictive ban did not happen.

The US government does not want to give it's citizens access to affordable machine guns. In 1934, the tax was equivalent to $3300.00 in today's dollars.

 

[animator]

The selector lever for automatic on a Kalashnikov is actually the middle position. I don't know too much about what inside makes the difference.

This is because the disconnector for a fully-auto AK has a little tab on the rear of it that his held down by the selector lever when in the center position.

Holding down the disconnector in this manner prevents the disconnector from catching the hammer. The hammer is instead caught by the safety sear, which holds the hammer back until tripped by the bolt carrier to release the hammer to drop, thus firing another round. The safety sear is only tripped once the bolt is fully locked, and the bolt carrier is fully forward. This prevents an out-of-battery firing situation.

When the selector is in the fully-down position (semi-auto), the disconnector catches the hammer after every firing, and resets on the trigger identically to a semi-only AK.

Most disconnectors do not have this tab on them, or the tab was ground off before the parts were sold as parts kits. So even with a safety sear installed, you also need a full-auto disconnector in order for all the parts to work together the way they should.

 

[AnimeFanatic5602]

To be honest, I wouldn't mind the tax stamp so much if we could just get rid of the Hughes Amendment. Taking away the '86 ban would allow prices to normalize (which would probably piss off a lot of people who have invested significant amounts of money in transferable machine guns) as market forces take over.

 

[dogtown tom]

Thread is two and a half years old.

 

[wally]

there is ONE legal way to get a full-auto equivalency in an AK: the Slide Fire Solutions SSAK-47 bumpfire stock. It allows for controllable bumpfiring from the shoulder, and the ATF has deemed it legal. It also has a means of locking it to disable the bumpfire ability.

The disable part of the Slide Fire AK version is really crappy. Its actually a decent AK stock SA except for this. I "fixed" mine by making two side "plugs" with epoxy putty held it with Velcro wrapped around and glued to the outer surface of the plugs. Easily removed for simulated FA and makes it much better for SA.