Discussion in 'Shooting Gear and Storage' started by conan32120, Feb 7, 2022.
I also prefer the old spin dials myself.
question.. how do you change the lock if you cant open the safe? Also my wife works in a store where they have an electronic safe and it failed but i was able to open it for her with a super magnet, you can youtube how.
Besides quick access, I also enjoy the ease of changing the combination on an electronic lock.
Maybe if you don't open the door very often, it lasts a long time. Or maybe while it sits there, it grows tin whiskers and shorts out despite the lack of use. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisker_(metallurgy)
I prefer mechanical dial, but that choice may be disappearing.
Mine came with a key. Remove the digital dial and in goes the key. Kept hidden in another part of the house of course.
This too happened to me, also with a Winchester branded safe. I was very lucky that I was able to get it open one last time before the digital lock failed permanently. Sergeant Greenleaf went in to replace it, and I think I will stick with mechanical locks from this point forward.
Any decent safe with an electronic lock will have a mechanical back up. I have 4 different safes with keypads, they all have a mechanical back up to open the safe in the even the keypad fails or the battery dies. I actually didn't know you could buy a safe that you couldn't access if the battery died until I read it on these forums lol. My only guess is those safes are big box store bargain safes. Diffentily don't buys those. I mean your truck/car has keyless entry that you probably use 99% of the time, but you still have a mechanical lock in the event your keyfob dies or the trucks battery dies. That's just common sense. At the same time refusing to have keyless entry on your vehicle cause it could possibly fail and force you to use a key is kind of silly. To me a safe is the same way. I want the ease of access with a keypad, but of course I want a manual lock for back up. It's not a one or the other. It's easily both. Heck you can have a safe with dials and a keypad if you don't want to deal with a key.
Just ease of access. My home defense Firearms are not in my gun safes. I have one of those hide away mirrors beside my bed. I keep my edc and a rifle there at night. Doesn't really even have a lock. Flip a hidden lever at the top to open it. It's just to keep them out of sight and to keep them out of reach of our youngest child. Personally the last thing I'm doing in the middle of the night is messing with a dial or a keypad.
You're not being a fudd. Safes have relied on dials for thousands of years. No need to go digital imo, it's just for ease of use.
A good friend is a certified Safe Tech and he still says that the residential calls he gets is usually for electronic keypads/locks. He also says if it is UL rated his warranty claims during the locks warranty period is about the same as a dial. It's the longer term where they fail at a higher rate. He also brags about having a paid for boat from those residential calls alone.
As I get older, I see the ease of use advantage that people want with the digital pads, but my safe isn't meant for quick access. I am more concerned of the typical failure without warning. Similar to "my TV worked fine last night". With a mechanical dial it will usually give you some feedback that it needs maintenance before it fails. If you ignore it, well that's on you.
Regarding quick access and electronic safes, these really are the most unreliable. They are all made from electronics that don't have anything like a UL rating for quality. At least the mechanical Simplex pushbutton lock has a very impressive 60+ year track record of reliability.
And unlike a large safe, there are none that have replacement parts available when there is a failure. I know most are very cheap and viewed as a throw-away, like that TV I mentioned, but if your quick access safe doesn't open in the middle of the night it's not the same as not being able to watch Morning Express w/Robin Meade.
I have an electronic lock on my safe and have never had a problem. But I also maintain two separate portable cases with old school padlocks, each stocked with a rifle, shotgun, and handgun. Trust but verify.
As far as multiple unlockings go, my dial has a key that allows me to turn the dial off of it's open point by a few numbers and lock the dial.. To get back in, insert and turn the key and then rotate the dial a little bit to it's unlock position. Works great if you are in the house and are going to the safe more than once. If I leave the house, I throw the key into the safe, close the door, and spin the dial as required to clear the lock.
Why don’t you offer electronic locks?
Electronic locks do not hold up to our quality standards. They are not reliable and the only thing we can guarantee is that somewhere down the road you will have trouble with them.
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