Disappointed in the NRA

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While reading the December 2008 issue of "American Rifleman" I came across
what I thought was an article on page 38 titled: "Guns & Gold: Security in
Times of Uncertainty". The article turned out to be nothing more than a
paid advertisement. The reason I thought it was an article was because of
the page layout. On closer inspection it was called an 'Advertorial'. The
page layout was the same as all of the articles listed in the table of
contents at the beginning of the magazine but the 'Advertorial' was not
listed. Also not listed were the authors of the advertisement/article on
page 90 with the rest of the authors of "American Rifleman" articles.

I am disappointed because I feel that the magazine has prostituted itself
and sold its members (subscribers) down the river. I have always held to
the belief that "American Rifleman" was a cut above almost all other
gun/shooting magazines, that their reporting and articles were the least
biased in the industry and that the editorial staff of the magazine worked
hard to publish the straight dope! I was wrong, in spite of plenty of pages
of advertising, the editors want more, to the extent that they try to hide
it or sneak it in.

I wrote to the editorial director of NRA Publications, Mr. John Zent and
expressed my displeasure. The reply I got from Mr. Zent was nothing short
of a polite kiss off, (Don't you know that the magazines revenue comes from
advertising?). I encourage you to look at page 38 in the December 2008
issue of "American Rifleman" and if you feel that because of the page
layout, the advertisement is misleading or underhanded on the part of the
editors, to drop Mr. Zent a line at: [email protected] and ask him to stop
this (in my opinion) underhanded and deceptive practice.
 
As someone who works in the publishing field I can tell you first hand that almost everything is paid for by advertising, overt or otherwise. If it were not for these dirty, underhanded evil advertisers and their dastardly graphic designers tricking you into reading what you thought to be an article you would have to pay more for your magazine, and we can't very well have that can we?
 
Well, I was watching TV the other day and they interrupted the program to sneakily slip some commercials in! The nerve of those broadcasters!
 
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Ever read a magazine before? Most stories are pretty much advertisements.

"New EMP"
"Glock reviewed"
"1911 for CCW"

IMO, this is pretty small potatoes compared to actual issues that gun owners face with the speculated laws and bans coming.
 
But why does it seem that almost every article that's supposed to be objective reads like an advertisement. :scrutiny:

I believe they would give a positive report on a Jimenez JA-Nine! :mad:
 
But why does it seem that almost every article that's supposed to be objective reads like an advertisement.

In a NEWSPAPER, objectivity is SUPPOSED to be there... Most magazines are opinion pieces. More over, who would want to read a magazine that is DRY rendition of facts?

I believe they would give a positive report on a Jimenez JA-Nine!

Ever shot one? They aren't bad guns. Accurate, reliable after some tweaking (using ball only of course) and cheap. Not exceptionally durable, but that goes with the cheap price tag.

Talk smack about them all you want, but they are MADE in the USA and interesting cheap weapons that work... Can't hate on that.


I am not dissapointed in the NRA at all. In fact, I a rather proud that every member of my family is a member.

Every dollar they get in advertising goes to combat the anti jerks... So MORE ADVERTISING PLEASE!
 
I have another hint for you, if you read 'men's magazines' - some of those ladies' attributes aren't real either. :D
 
It's a sign of the times we live in. Corporate America rules and they are vital for media publications now. Perhaps if more people joined the ranks of the NRA they would have less advertisements in the publications.

-Happy Holidays
 
Ron, advertising has always been deceitful, and publishers have always been beholden to them. But yes, they're getting better at it. What I think is even more underhanded is how a magazine's "articles" are so biased to keep their ad-clients happy that they're of little use to the readers. That's what I like about Consumer Reports.
 
Yeah, I was also up in arms when those fake Geico commercials like 'Tiny House' and 'Super Glue' were airing on TV.
 
Did you know the advertiser's are the official source for the NRA? Lot's of firearms owner's aren't buying AR's as a investment vehicle, they look to other sources of long term appreciation. I'd rather put my money in Class III weapons or old muscle cars for an even better return. Like I have money to blow on stuff like that.

I try to stay away from magazines that have excess advertising not related to the core subject. Hunting magazines with truck, beer, snuff, and herbal enhancement ads don't rank high on my credibility list. I've seen some of this sneaking into the Rifleman of late. I don't care for it much, but I don't expect it will go far. The pendulum will swing back.

Considering a lot of life members get the magazine for free, like me, and have for decades, advertising to underwrite the cost is necessary. And, as it's not really a magazine as much as an association newsletter and member's information source, I'll take their recommedation in the positive spirit it was meant.

When that $6000 check arrives this spring to energize the economy, I'll consider it.
 
''I have another hint for you, if you read 'men's magazines' - some of those ladies' attributes aren't real either...''
I am deeply shocked,and saddened!
 
I've noticed ads for Universal Coin & Bullion in previous issues of the American Rifleman. Just as Mitchell's Mausers buys ad space, I guess the NRA needs the income to keep publishing the AR.

What bothers me as a MEMBER is that both of these companies have less than stellar reputations. Do a search on any gun forum and you'll find plenty of instances where MM has stretched the truth in describing the authenticity of it's merchandise.

Universal Coin & Bullion is a bit more disturbing. Do a Google search and it won't take you long to find out that they have been involved in several lawsuits claiming fraud.

Several newspapers here in Texas have reported on these guys. Here's one article:
http://www.dallasobserver.com/2007-07-19/news/nickeled-dimed-and-screwed/

Definitely NOT someone I want as a sponsor or advertiser in MY American Rifleman.
 
DogTownTom wrote: "I've noticed ads for Universal Coin & Bullion in previous issues of the American Rifleman. Just as Mitchell's Mausers buys ad space, I guess the NRA needs the income to keep publishing the AR.

What bothers me as a MEMBER is that both of these companies have less than stellar reputations. Do a search on any gun forum and you'll find plenty of instances where MM has stretched the truth in describing the authenticity of it's merchandise.

Universal Coin & Bullion is a bit more disturbing. Do a Google search and it won't take you long to find out that they have been involved in several lawsuits claiming fraud.

Several newspapers here in Texas have reported on these guys. Here's one article:
http://www.dallasobserver.com/2007-0...d-and-screwed/

Definitely NOT someone I want as a sponsor or advertiser in MY American Rifleman."


In spite of the lawsuits, they are still endorsed by the editorial staff of NRA Publications. To me, this is unbelievable....until now I have held the NRA in the highest regard
 
''I have another hint for you, if you read 'men's magazines' - some of those ladies' attributes aren't real either...''
I am deeply shocked,and saddened!

You mean she really was not a 2nd grade teacher with a deep personal relationship with Jesus Christ?

Mike
 
Thanks RPCVYemen, for the heads-up about "Gun Tests." I already subscribed, read a few articles, and I love it already.
 
About the American Rifleman

Ron my Brother calm down and take a breath.The very concept of magazines like the AR is to promote the principles and concepts of the NRA.Moreover it is a major source of revenue with it's advertising.Believe me when I say the NRA could never survive on membership alone Haven't you ever noticed how things advertised in that Magazine are for the most part overpriced?Have you ever purchased a firearm through them?They promote revenue People like John Zent are actually contracted writers.There is little reason to believe that John Zent is in any way a Gun enthusiast.People like him get so much mail that they really do not have time other than write as you called it a "Polite Kiss Off " His one and only mission is to sell the NRA.don't take it personally.John Zent for all we know may be a pablum puking liberal who doesn't believe one word of the crap he writes,but the NRA is a world wide gun lobby that is not interested in what he believes,only what he writes
 
Thanks RPCVYemen, for the heads-up about "Gun Tests." I already subscribed, read a few articles, and I love it already.

You'll find that they have limitations - most financial, but they are the best out there.

The most important financial limitation is that they can only afford to buy one copy of a gun. When they test that one copy and it functions poorly, the fans of that gun always complain mightily that they got a statistical fluke. All other copies of that gun are known to be superb examples of the finest guns made by the hands of man.

If you keep that in mind, you'll find them a valuable resource. And, as I said earlier, their is no competition even close.

Mike
 
I happen to get the magazine because I belong to the NRA. But I sure didn't join the NRA so I could get the magazine. I wish there was 400 pages of ads in there. Then I wouldn't have to contribute as much out of my pocket to fight the antis.
 
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