Do cheap handguns serve any purpose?

[monotonous_iterancy]

You know how there's super cheap, small caliber pistols that are seemingly just one missed cleaning session from blowing up in your hand right out of the box? They used to be blamed for causing a lot of crime. Do guns in that price range actually serve a legitimate purpose?

 

[1KPerDay]

Serve as subjects for troll threads?

 

[Nushif]

The question of "legitimate purpose" is a very, very slippery slope.

 

[HGUNHNTR]

Do Hyundais have a legitimate purchase when Mercedes is clearly a better car? Why don't we all just buy and use the most high quality products available regardless the cost?

btw, if "saturday nite specials" as you call them were dangerous, the company manufacturing them would be sued out of business. I have never heard of, or seen a gun cause any crime. If they did we would need to hold them accountable for their actions in a court of law.

 

[monotonous_iterancy]

I'm not trolling. I exaggerated, yes. It was a poor attempt. I'm not blaming them for crime either, I said that they used to be blamed for it, rightly or wrongly. I'm just curious, who is the intended market for a $75 to $150 handgun?

 

[LTR shooter]

Give me some examples of guns that are classified as "Saturday Night Specials".

They used to be blamed for causing a lot of crime.

When the hec did guns start causing crime?

 

[wyohome]

http://youtu.be/mWBoeY0AAec
These guys think not.

 

[smalls]

Not everyone can afford nice guns, but still want protection. If you can afford better, buy better. If not, a cheap gun is better than not having one at all. Just make sure to inspect and clean frequently, which you should be doing anyway with any gun you stake your life on.

 

[Nushif]

I'm just curious, who is the intended market for a $75 to $150 handgun?

People who can't or won't afford a more expensive one and collector's would be my best guess. Much like most other guns, I imagine.

 

[monotonous_iterancy]

Give me some examples of guns that are classified as "Saturday Night Specials".

I think Raven Arms is a manufacturer of them.

When the hec did guns start causing crime?

They don't, but anti-gun people used to try and ban SNS because they claimed that they were commonly used in crimes. They jump on one hysteria fad to the next. SNS, Glocks, so on and so on. But I probably don't need to tell you that.

 

[JERRY]

I'm just curious, who is the intended market for a $75 to $150 handgun?

the same people who have to rent cheap apartments, have take the city bus to work, cant afford rib eye steak, have to send their kids to public school......

saturday night special is a racist term used to describe blacks in the slums getting liquored up and shooting guns on saturday night. because they couldnt afford sig sauers the term was applied to any gun affordable to poor folks.

 

[brickeyee]

"N****rtown Saturday night special" was the orginl phrase.

Not very PC.

Even gun control advocate Robert Sherrill claimed: "The Gun Control Act of 1968 was passed not to control guns but to control blacks."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_night_special

Not the best reference, but you can start following the references it contains.

 

[monotonous_iterancy]

I didn't know about the racist origin of the term.

 

[JERRY]

I didn't know about the racist origin of the term.

yep, coined by the democratic party who now controls the blacks.

 

[monotonous_iterancy]

It's ironic. I just want to make it clear, I'm not against SNS, I just wanted to start a discussion on them. My thinking was "Who would want a $75 gun? A homeless person maybe? If someone wanted a cheap gun, then why not spend just a little bit more for a used Taurus?" Of course, I hadn't really thought that maybe they can't save that much because they might spend 90% of their income paying their rent or mortgage, and the rest goes to food.

 

[Wanderling]

I think while guns don't commit crimes, some guns are specifically marketed to criminals. I see Hi-Points as "respectably" cheap; SNS are more like disposable. But that's just my opinion.

 

[David E]

but anti-gun people used to try and ban SNS because they claimed that they were commonly used in crimes.

AND define them. At one time, a Colt .45 Peacemaker with a 7.5" barrel was a "Saturday Night Special," by their so-called definition.

NEVER take words used by antis at face value.

 

[David E]

I think while guns don't commit crimes, some guns are specifically marketed to criminals.

Think about the stupidity of this statement for a minute...

 

[LTR shooter]

At one time, a Colt .45 Peacemaker with a 7.5" barrel was a "Saturday Night Special," by their so-called definition.

Yeah , once had my 6" 686 referred to as a "SNS" , and he was another shooter.

 

[JERRY]

id gladly take a jennings J-22 on the cheap if i could.

 

[Wanderling]

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Think about the stupidity of this statement for a minute...

Perhaps a little less rudeness and arrogance would help to keep this discussion more interesting ? Just a suggestion. Being rude doesn't help the point you're trying to make, it usually has just the opposite effect.

Companies commonly market to specific target groups. And yes, there are companies that won't stop before designing a product with specific appeal to the groups that are more likely to use their products to break the law, as long as they can get away with it and make some money in the process. Like many if not most of the "medical" MJ facilities. (Hey I am all for legalizing, but let's be honest !)

 

[Snowdog]

Some of these "Saturday night specials", short on both quality and features, do work. I purchased a Davis P380 and D32 (.32 Magnum) on a whim over 15 years ago. They're both constructed primarily of zamak, but they both also work.

The (advertised) black PTFE-based finish blistered off the D32 in short order and the rifling shot out of P380 after a couple boxes of Hansen JHPs.

However, if I didn't have access to anything but these two sub-$100 pistols, I would really want to hold on to them as they do fire with the pull of the trigger.

I possess the financial ability obtain decent firearms, though also possess the wisdom to know there are those who don't. To strive for higher standards in firearm quality is one thing, but to allow the social elite to use those standards to disarm the population is simply foolish.

 

[HGUNHNTR]

Wanderling-lets hear about some guns that are marketed to criminals, and how the marketing is geared towards garnering the patronage of the criminal legal gun purchasing market.

Are different types of guns marketed to rapists than are to murders? What types of guns are typically marketed to someone commiting tax evasion, larceny, pick pocketing, jay walking, drunk driving, arson, or kidnapping? How are these criminals targeted radio, newspaper, billboards? Just curious what you've noticed.

 

[zxcvbob]

I tried to buy a Heritage .22 single action revolver that was advertised at Cabela's a few months ago. Got to the store and found out they forgot to say "not sold in Minnesota" on the sale flyer -- the gun is legally a "Saturday Night Special" here. (because so many crimes are being committed with SA western-style revolvers, I guess)

The whole SNS thing is just to keep guns out of the hands of blacks and low income whites -- to keep them in their place. Respectable people (and the state) can afford nice guns.

 

[HGUNHNTR]

The whole SNS thing is just to keep guns out of the hands of low income people -- to keep them in their place. Respectable people (and the state) can afford nice guns.

Fixed that for you.