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Do concealed guns belong in stadiums?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by olivernelson, Sep 15, 2011.

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  1. olivernelson

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  2. EarlyStarts

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    Strange question. You should be able to carry anywhere. Of course in a stadium. Open carry too.

    Should you be able to carry a bottle of water in a stadium?
     
  3. Tallinar

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    I can see no reason why I shouldn't be allowed to carry into stadiums as opposed to any other public place.
     
  4. Lawdawg45

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    Yes, but as with any other private property the owner sets the rules. Lucas Oil Stadium where our Colts play doesn't even allow off duty LEO's to carry............in theory.;)

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  5. 357 Terms

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    Considering what happened at a L.A. Dodgers game in april, I believe the man who was attacked is STILL in the hospital, I would sa YES!
     
  6. Loosedhorse

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    +1.
     
  7. Vern Humphrey

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    Do people belong in stadiums?

    Do people from time to time, in the most unexpected places, suddenly need to defend themselves?
     
  8. Guillermo

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    Where did that question come from? :confused:

    OF COURSE people should be allowed to carry in a stadium.
     
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    From what I've been told about the law here in Idaho, you can carry until you're asked to leave, so if no one sees it no problem (assuming you have the ccw if it is concealed). The only legal problem you'd have is trespassing if you refused to leave.
     
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    Some state CCW laws prohibit concealed carry at/in any public venue event requiring purchasing a ticket for admission. Examples would be a movie theater or sports arena. Wise to check your states regulations before doing so. As to the should it be allowed question, I agree it should.
     
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    I second what 357 Terms said!!
     
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    I think the initial question shows the real issue here. Was the problem the stun gun itself or the person who "smuggled" it in the stun gun? IIRC, tasers aren't allowed, but it didn't stop this person from "smuggling" in the stun gun. Honestly, if someone had the intent of tasering a bunch of people, would another rule or law have really made any difference? Tasering a bunch of people was illegal in the first place.

    Really, it's an argument FOR allowing concealed weapons into the stadium. Criminals are going to find a way to commit crime, that's what they do. By definition, they don't obey the law, including laws about carrying weapons. Allowing legal concealed weapons allows good, law abiding citizens to defend themselves from these individuals.
     
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    It's against the law in fl.
     
  14. Mike1234567

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    Dem stadiums is dangerous and should be banned. Yeah, dat's da ticket. Tear down da' stadiums and build more shootin' ranges. Yeah... :D
     
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    Not trying to be the most interesting man on the planet with my next comment, but, I rarely watch stadium sports but when I do, I prefer to do so from the comfort of my own home. Climate control, reasonably priced adult beverages, clean restrooms, no one jumping up in front of me, no one sloshing beer on me, slow motion, instant replay, multiple camera angles, guys a lot smarter than me explaining the finer points of what's going on, no traffic and last but not least, a lot less likely to get mugged inside my own home. So the bigger question is why would I even go to a stadium? Just sayin'.....
     
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    That's what the police are for. Besides, if firearms are prohibited in stadiums, there's nothing to fear, right?
     
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    I'm not sure about federal laws, but in Washington, you cannot legally have a weapon on you in a bar. Considering how many people like to get a beer at the ballgame...
     
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    Obviously you don't have kids...
     
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    ^^ ..LOL!!
     
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    A concealed gun belongs on me.

    I did attend a baseball game at Dodgers Stadium with a 1911 in .45ACP in an IWB holster as I chaperoned my daughter and her friends. Same with a music concert in Sacramento, L.A. Auto Show, Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance. Forgot to add Disneyland and Knott's Berry Farm.

    I'm me whether I have a gun or not. Same with the bad guys. If they want to do harm, they'll figure out a way. I just want tools to stop them from including my family in their plans.
     
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    Oliver,

    Do you think the terrorist will stay out of stadiums?

    You think hate filled ex-spouses will stay out of stadiums?

    Or robbers? Molesters? Insane killers? Gangs?

    So what makes a stadium so sacred you disarm everyone except those who don't care if they are caught (or whom they kill?)

    And as for those with CCWs, there are already laws against drinking while carrying. Laws against brandishing guns. Laws against murder.

    It's not the CCW packers that should alarm anyone. In fact they are a safety mechanism as there are never enough cops around.

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    I'm missing the connection there... people like to get beer at Applebees and many, many other restaurants where firearms may be lawfully carried in Washington. What is the argument against self protection being allowed in a stadium? In fact, in Washington state, if a city or county operates the stadium, they are prohibited by state law from banning firearms for CPL holders:

    RCW 9.41.290
    State preemption.
    The state of Washington hereby fully occupies and preempts the entire field of firearms regulation within the boundaries of the state, including the registration, licensing, possession, purchase, sale, acquisition, transfer, discharge, and transportation of firearms, or any other element relating to firearms or parts thereof, including ammunition and reloader components. Cities, towns, and counties or other municipalities may enact only those laws and ordinances relating to firearms that are specifically authorized by state law, as in RCW 9.41.300, and are consistent with this chapter. Such local ordinances shall have the same penalty as provided for by state law. Local laws and ordinances that are inconsistent with, more restrictive than, or exceed the requirements of state law shall not be enacted and are preempted and repealed, regardless of the nature of the code, charter, or home rule status of such city, town, county, or municipality.

    RCW 9.41.300
    Weapons prohibited in certain places — Local laws and ordinances — Exceptions — Penalty.
    (2) Cities, towns, counties, and other municipalities may enact laws and ordinances:
    (a) Restricting the discharge of firearms in any portion of their respective jurisdictions where there is a reasonable likelihood that humans, domestic animals, or property will be jeopardized. Such laws and ordinances shall not abridge the right of the individual guaranteed by Article I, section 24 of the state Constitution to bear arms in defense of self or others; and
    (b) Restricting the possession of firearms in any stadium or convention center, operated by a city, town, county, or other municipality, except that such restrictions shall not apply to:
    (i) Any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070
    or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060; or
    (ii) Any showing, demonstration, or lecture involving the exhibition of firearms.
     
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    Not at all. Stadiums have this consecrated aura of safety which prevents anything bad from happening to people who go there.
     
  24. Guillermo

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    The question wasn't if it was legal. In most places the answer is "no".

    The question was "Should people be able to bring concealed weapons into 80,000-seat stadiums?" The answer is "yes"
     
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    Concealed weapons should go anywhere people with concealed weapons go.
    Private gun ownership is not some activity that only "certain people" in "certain places" do.
    In a given crowd of people it makes sense to expect a certain percentile of lpeople to be carrying, but that might just be me. 8)
     
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