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Do Cosmetic Blemishes Bother You?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Tecolote, Oct 27, 2007.

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  1. Tecolote

    Tecolote Member

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    Do cosmetic blemishes bother you when you buy something NIB? Imperfections in the finish or machining marks cause some people headaches but other people could care less. Where do you stand?
     
  2. ronwill

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    While it wouldn't send me into a fit, when I buy something new I prefer it to look new.
     
  3. jrfoxx

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    It would really depend on how much the gun cost, but mostly what I planned to use it for.If its a carry or hunting gun, it wouldn't be a big deal, a I'm likely to put my own dings and wear on it anyways.
     
  4. BridgeWalker

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    I prefer not to buy new because it bugs me to buy something flawed new, but I don't mind cosmetic blemishes and actually prefer one or two; makes me less touchy about messing it up myself. So, I buy used. Not a single gun purchased new in this house.
     
  5. Brian Williams

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    Nope, adds to Character
     
  6. The Bushmaster

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    If that's how they feel about the outside of their product then I wonder how the inside looks...
     
  7. Tecolote

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    My buddy passed on a smoking deal on a NIB G26 because of minor cosmetic blemishes, one on the finish and some nearly undetectable machining marks on the slide's gripping grooves. You've got to hold the G26 just right to see the finish blemish and you can't see the machining marks unless you hold the slide nearly to your nose. He passed on it but I'm going to snatch it up.
     
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    I like buying used. Triggers are smoother, springs are worked in, bugs usually weeded out. I even like the holster wear.
     
  9. Starter52

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    They drive me nutz. If I'm buying NIB I expect it to be perfect. Even when I buy used I'll pass up a gun with blemishes. "Honest wear" I don't mind.
     
  10. Snubby 38

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    Perfection Nut!

    I'm afflicted with perfectionism... If there's a blemish on the the gun, my eyes go right to it. If I had a dollar for every smeared screw that I've replaced, I could retire five years early. It must be in the genes.
     
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    I certainly want my new guns to be in brand new condition, no rust, no scratches, even bluing or parkerizing. I inspect each gun cosmetically before I buy.

    I don't care how other people treat their guns, but I do NOT treat my guns like tools.

    That said....

    I think is some cases the well used look does work, I have an AK that isn't in great cosmetic condition but it adds character to it. I also don't mind surplus guns that have a used look, I sometimes will refinish the stock and clean off the tarnish from the metal but they don't have to be mint.

    So I guess I have mixed feelings on cosmetic condition, new guns I certainly want in mint condition. Used guns.....methinks it depends on the gun:rolleyes:
     
  12. El Tejon

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    No, however I always kick the firearm to the car after I purchase it.:D
     
  13. fastbolt

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    Less so if the firearm is being used as a defensive weapon. Tools pick up enough markings during normal activities that they quickly enough acquire that 'used patina'.

    Now, if it were a firearm being purchased for the simple pleasure of ownership, including the reasonable meaning of 'pride-of-ownership', or a collectible ... then yes, cosmetic blemishes bother me.

    Now, when I say this I'm thinking of a nicely done collectible firearm like something from the Colt Custom Shop. A beautiful SA revolver, for example.

    An ordinary service-grade 'working gun' like a S&W, Glock, Sig Sauer, HK or Beretta defensive sidearm, though? Not hardly. ;)

    I'll admit it was a bit of a shock to see so many scratched, nicked, battered (worn bluing, with some rust spots & chipped grips) issued blued Colt Pythons in duty holsters back when I was a new cop, though. :D
     
  14. The Lone Haranguer

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    I can live with very minor imperfections, on lower-priced guns. If it is an expensive gun I expect it to be flawless. This is with new guns, mind you.
     
  15. Lonestar49

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    Yes and No

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    The first scratch, or imperfection, you usually see after seeing it, buying it, picking it up, looking at it again, then taking it home, and during the first cleaning, :what:

    Then the first hurt, the deepest, is over, and it becomes a working gun, in my book with, as mentioned, character.. :)

    And gives one reason and, hope, down the long road, of usage, of a beautiful re-finish, with some possible "improvements" you have garnered and thought; "that's how I want mine to look like.. one day"


    Ls
     
  16. Shipwreck

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    Yes, as said above - I expect it to be perfect when NIB - I skipped buying a USP 45 today at a large gunshow because the 2 vendors that had them had marked up guns.

    I'm not gonna spend that much for a gun marked up.
     
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    I don't mind at all, blemishes usually get you discounts, and besides every firearm i own gets shot. they are gonna get knicks and scratches anyway. heck i don't even need a big discount. if i was going for a pistol or rifle that had some minor cosmetic defects, i could probably be won over with a free box of shells or two. that would actually probably appease me right into a moderate aesthetic defect.
     
  18. The Lone Haranguer

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    That kind would not bother me, even if I did notice it.
     
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    Yes, imperfections bother me. If the gun is NIB, I want it to be flawless for as long as I can keep it that way. Normal wear over the years I can live with, but scratches that I put on it from goofing up something will nag on me. Same way for a used gun, if it has just slight normal wear on the finish it willbe fine with me, but not scratches and dings.
     
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    Depends on how much I'm paying for it. If it's a $450 Glock, I'm not going to care a whole lot about the finish, as long as it shoots. But if it's a $3,000 custom 1911, that thing had better be absolutely spotless on every single surface.
     
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    As long as it's not a huge dent or a ragged edge that would cut me to the bone or something that would interfere with function...No. Minor cosmetic issues like finish are only a bargaining chip. I buy'em to use. Won't be long before they've got several flaws in the finish. :D
     
  22. Old Fuff

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    The Old Fuff says yes and no... :evil: :D

    I seldom buy new guns. When I do I expect them to be right. Too many manufacturers are charging too much, and then putting out sloppy work. I don't go for a "so what" attitude on their part.

    Used guns are another matter. Used guns should be in perfect mechanical shape (or be able to be made so) and have clean bores and chambers. If the exterior finish is worn it is most likely to get more so as time and additional use goes on. A bright blue never made a gun shoot any better, but of course it sometimes makes an owner feel better.

    Anyway, to each his own.
     
  23. Mad Magyar

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    A recent acquisition of a Series 80 Colt from a friend was in superb conditon, except for a slight mark near the slide stop--the dreaded "i#@%T mark".
    I ragged the hell out of him, but like most: denied culpability and blamed it on the mfgr, his lost cousin, etc...I laughed like hell....:)
     
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    I want it perfect mechanically - doesn't bother me what it looks like as long as it works.
     
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    I generally buy only new guns--simply because I'm too insecure about my used-gun buying skills to properly assess the item.

    I got going with S&W revolvers this year--and I was unable to find a 640 that had a good SS finish on the frame. They all looked liked they'd been buffed by the "...I got it get this done..." worker, and the flaws ranged from unevenness at the top strap on back to a blemish in the blasting process.
    Since I intended this one to be a shooter and carry gun, it didn't bother me.
    I checked out the action and the fit and chose the one that seemed best to me.

    But, when I impulsively bought a Kimber 10mm Stainless Target II, I looked closely at the finish and fit. Since it was virtually flawless, that added to the desire.

    The M&P340 I carry was finished and fit to high standards, and that may have been "...blind pig" luck. It's carried daily, in a Mika holster and has been shot about 500-600 times so far. Dings on that one I will accept, but so far there are none--only a couple of minor wear marks, and the DLC finish is just fine.

    So, I guess I have some sort 'ultilitarian aesthetic'--carry guns should have their experiences showing, I think.

    Jim H.
     
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