Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 230RN, Jun 10, 2021.
Good one ! But I've been doing it since before the Dirty Harry movies (1971) came out.
Last year I acquired this Ruger MKI 22lr pistol and had it drilled and tapped for an optical sight. Collectors, have a nice cry at my estate sale!
it is an early 60's target version of the Ruger MKI which means it has a factory tuned trigger.
Now the thing about the MKI is that it does not have a bolt stop. So, during rapid and timed fire, if I am not counting, I don't know if I have fired my five rounds or not. Which means, when I pull the trigger on an empty chamber, I can see if I am flinching or not! I am hoping this will help me reduce the flinch reflex, as that flinch is the primary reason I am not shooting at a higher class. The flinch does get worse with the 45. It gets worse for everyone, no one shoots a 45 as well as the 22 lr.
In that last and my later life as a lawman, keeping track of rounds fired and when a reload is vital were important considerations. So keeping track of rounds fired became second nature.
However, age and life has me a bit less than sharp these days.
So, are we talking on the square range only?
'Cause, counting number of rounds fired... Sigh. Sometimes a contentious topic. On the square range, maybe. More power to ya. Those who've been in combat in the military know that's why tracers were created. In law enforcement, if one's been in a for-real gunfight, I've met only a couple of guys who claimed they knew exactly how many rounds they'd fired. But I also remember situations where guys thought they'd fired numerous rounds, but hadn't shot hardly any... and other guys who initially said they'd fired only a couple or three... but shot through their entire mags. And were surprised when they saw their bolts locked open...
Am I shooting for accuracy and competition? Perhaps.
Am I showing off to my mormon friend who just got into guns? Absolutely.
That's one of the things that had not occurred to me until it was pointed out in this thread ! In my defensive shooting against rocks and cow pies, I always just let it go to slide lock, drop mag, jam in fresh, release slide while the rocks and cow pies were also reloading.
Depends on the sport. In IDPA you're not allowed to drop a magazine with rounds in it, so it's a "reload with retention", which is slower than a slide lock. Common practice is to count your rounds VS TGTs, expend extra on a more challenging target, and reload from slide lock while moving to the next engagement.
I recently got into shooting a flintlock and can't seem to get past one with that round count.
Then there's the superhero power to come out of my pocket with 6 fresh ones.
That said, while I am shooting the stage I am not counting down or up. Just shooting the stage as I “programmed” it into my head. If I had to make up a shot it has never been “shot number 14”. Just the shot that broke where it didn’t need to go.
That said, I do count some when shooting in general, and often when loading mags.
I am a firm believer that when it all goes to heck you will revert back to your repetitive training and muscle memory.
Why does Hickok45 always go BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG CLICK when he shoots revolvers? I may not be able to hit an 80 yard gong with a snub, but at least I can count up to 5.
@Slamfire, I do most of my small-bore semi-auto practice with a Ruger Mark 1 Target Model.
This has taught me to count shots with this pistol.
Larger caliber semi-autos tell me when I'm running low by the change in the pistol's balance.
I guess that my hands became more sensitive than most folks when I was blinded for most of a year.
Well, as it is said, the fastest reload is to have another loaded gun at the ready.
We were also taught not to put the partially used mag back in our mag holder, so as not to be confused with a full mag. The partial mag got stuck in our belt to be used as a last resort.
Fortunately, I never had to use that training for real. Happily, forty years on the job without a shot fired in anger, on or off duty. But I still count...
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