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Do you avoid going to countries that don't respect RKBA?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by jlbraun, Feb 14, 2008.

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Do you avoid going to countries that don't respect RKBA?

  1. Yes, I do.

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  2. No, I don't.

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  1. jlbraun

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    Because you can't carry there?

    Because of moral reasons?

    For whatever reason?

    Explain in thread.
     
  2. K3

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    I'd go for a vacation to just about any country that seemed interesting, regardless of their view on RKBA.

    Here at home is another matter. No Illinois, New York, or California for me.

    Hard to explain, but here goes: To me, going to say, Germany or Russia would be a once in a lifetime thing, and there are things there that you just can't see here in the US. It's worth a week or two of not being able to carry. Going to California? Meh. There are other states that have similar attractions that do respect RKBA.
     
  3. 3pairs12

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    I avoid going to other countries. Don't like Mexico, although have been dove hunting there, and Canada seems to cold. Flying over the ocean to get anywhere else not for me.
     
  4. apocryph

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    That would mean practically every country I would visit.

    I had the great fortune to be born American. I am still an American because America is still, on balance, the most free nation I can think of.

    I like visiting other countries (even the UK! :what:), though as a practical matter it means being disarmed for the duration of my visit. That said, I would never move anywhere that disarmed me, be it the PRK or the DPRK.
     
  5. Roman756

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    No,I don't.
    If I did my foreign travel options would shrink to almost zero.
    I just live with the facts.This a is harsh reality.The way most of the world lives,disarmed.
     
  6. Ske1etor

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    Countries? I avoid states that don't respect my RKBA....
     
  7. Gator

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    What countries allow Americans to carry?
     
  8. norwegianoperator

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    I think many of the European countries allows you to bring your rifle... but to bring a pistol/revolver is very restricted. i Often have that problem in my profession.
     
  9. xsquidgator

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    My thoughts exactly. Truth be told I'd still rather go on a driving vacation somewhere in the US where CCW is ok, than to go somewhere else outside the US where by definition the gun laws "are the suck". My life won't be worth a plugged nickel though if she-who-must-be-obeyed doesn't get her trip to Italy sometime though, so off I go.
     
  10. norwegianoperator

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    But how is it for a European citizen to bring and wear a gun in the US? I would like to go over for some course in tactical/defense shooting
     
  11. Cosmoline

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    As a foreign tourist my gun rights are pretty much nil everywhere on the planet. That's just something you have to accept. Even if locals have fairly good gun laws, those do not give foreign nationals much. The exception would be for hunting vacations, I suppose. But I can't see any nation allowing tourists from foreign countries to pack concealed firearms around.

    I worry more about the secondary impact of strict gun laws, such as petty crime and lawlessness.

    Long guns for sporting are OK I believe, but you have to clear any you intend to bring with customs. If you come over for a course where they provide arms and you just use them on the line, that should also be OK since there's no transfer. But I don't know many places where you could wear a firearm as a foreign tourist. Even in AK, the broad concealed carry law is limited to Alaska residents or holders of recognized CCW permits from states with reciprocity.
     
  12. DC300a

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    I visit other countries but avoid US states that do not respect RKBA
     
  13. norwegianoperator

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    Another thing : very few countries in Europe is unsafe.. Like Norway, we almost don`t have any random murders here... so that will remove your worries.... well, thats in Europe. but i know that you might not wanna walk the streets of Bogotà or Mexico city without a gun ;-)
     
  14. The Annoyed Man

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    With one exception, who lives in Maryland, the rest of my U.S. resident family lives in California. All of my other relatives live in France. Thus, I have no choice but to go to non-RKBA respecting states or countries if I want to visit family. Also, my mother owns property in France and spends part of each year there, so it is convenient for traveling.

    That being said, since I can't carry a good knife in carry on luggage, I make it a point to purchase a decent "tactical" type folding knife on arrival. On departure, I give it to my host or a friend, and chalk it up to the cost of traveling. And since I have the medical/surgical history to back it up, I travel with one of these hawthorn root canes from Whistle Creek:

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    It is hard enough and heavy enough to kill somebody if you whack 'em in the head just right, and the handle makes an excellent "ball hook."

    :D
     
  15. Brenainn

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    Yeah, I am a little lost on that one... ?
     
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    Countries or States?
     
  17. Cosmoline

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    Scandinavia is one thing, but I've been reading reports and first hand accounts of pretty serious violent crime problems in the UK, France and some other European nations. Petty theft is very bad, as are petty assaults. Over here I have a small chance of getting shot, but I don't have to worry about pick pockets and the worst assault I've ever dealt with was a drunk trying to hug me.

    In Mexico City it's a matter of avoiding the muy malo parts of town. I wouldn't go to Columbia unless I could afford a few armed henchmen.
     
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    I think it is best to get out and experience other cultures and depending on where you go you can really highten your awareness levels. It is actually really good training in my opinion. My wife and kids just returned from a trip to Rocky Point Mexico, we didn't get out of the resort much but when we did go into town it amazed me what I was aware of and the locals just treated it as normal business, much like getting in tune with a routine here at home.
     
  19. Silvanus

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    As a matter of fact I live in one ;)
     
  20. norwegianoperator

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    We can turn the question around a little: can tourists carrie a gun when they visit the US?

    And to Cosmoline: yes, some of the countries like France, Italia and Uk can be risky if you visit the wrong side of their towns.. But the crime rate is way down low compared to most of the large city`s in the US
     
  21. SCBradley

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    I avoid them like the plague. Mainly because I can't afford to go.
     
  22. Silvanus

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    Yep, every country has it's bad parts...I wouldn't want to go to a "banlieue" in some of the big French cities like Marseille for instance:uhoh:
     
  23. mpmarty

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    I don't travel internationally anymore. From age eighteen until I was nearly thirty I traveled to foreign lands, met interesting people, and killed them. I have no desire to go back.
     
  24. norwegianoperator

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    Well guys.... you miss a lot of lovely countries and people that way... i have so far been to 50 different countries, including the states, where i lived for 2 years. And i must say... if you only see your own backyard, you narrow your world and knowledge a lot.
     
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