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Do you ever get silly requests from non-gun owners?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by EddieCoyle, Jun 16, 2006.

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  1. EddieCoyle

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    I live in Mass. and I love to shoot. I'm not a hunter, I'm a shooter. I'm the rangemaster at my local club - which basically means I that build target stands, rake a lot, and empty the trash barrels. Did I also mention that I shoot a lot?

    Massachusetts is what you might call an anti-gun state. I find that many people here are anti-gun more due to ignorance than to political conviction. I try to do my part to change this. My family, friends, co-workers, and neighbors know that I own guns, and that I do a lot of shooting. Whenever somebody shows interest or ignorance, I try to educate them and offer to take them shooting. Many have taken me up on this offer, and have come away more pro-gun than when they started.

    While I can't say that I've converted any rabid anti-gunners, I have swung some fence-sitters over to our side, and turned some casual gun owners into active shooters - both politically and at the range.

    However, a couple of recent events have shown me the downside of being known as a "gun guy".

    Here's one:
    An aquaintance and a few of his friends were attending an event in what he considered to be a bad part of a bad town. He asked if I would come along and bring my "heater". I told him that I was going to pass, that I'm not a bodyguard, and that if he felt unsafe, he should either not go, or arm himself. He was a bit put off by this, and said that if I had asked him to do it for me, that he would. I told him that I would never ask someone to do that for me.

    Here's another:
    My neighbor has skunks in his yard and he's afraid that they will spray his dog. He said to me, "You're a gun guy, will you shoot them for me?" I explained to him that it was illegal to discharge a firearm within 500' of occupied dwellings without permission of the owners (we live in a residential neighborhood) and that even if he cleared it with the entire neighborhood I still wouldn't do it because I'd prefer to keep my gun permit. He suggested that if I waited until a skunk was about to spray me, I could claim self- defense. :banghead:

    I declined, suggesting that he should instead keep "Barky" in at night, or spread grub killer on his lawn to remove the skunks' food source. Besides, I like skunks.


    Does anybody else get these types of absurd (and sometimes dangerous) requests from non-gun owners? It reminds me of when I used to own a pickup truck and every distant relative or friend-of-a-friend would ask me to move something virtually every weekend.
     
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    It happens. For me, it's either the request to be a bodyguard to some family member in extemis or a 'go shoot something that I want to eat' kind of thing.

    I don't get too upset with these sorts of things, because I figure that (as ridiculous as some of the requests are) at least they give me opportunities to prove to others that firearms are simply useful tools.
     
  3. veloce851

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    he he, now you know what it's like to be known as the "computer guy" :D

    I've had the bodyguard request made. I declined as well. I told them they couldn't afford me.
    In hindsight I should have made the arm yourself statement.
     
  4. TallPine

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    I guess I miss out on a lot because to my knowledge I don't know any non-gunowners or anti-gun people ;)

    Yeah, and in the same breath they criticize you for owning a "gas-guzzler" :rolleyes:

    I still own a pickup, but nowadays I don't really know anybody who doesn't own a pickup (or 2 or 3 :) ) so it's not a problem anymore.
     
  5. just one question

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    Not really

    I think you guys exaggerate the stuff you take from non gun owners. If they ask "why do you have that, they are dangerous" I just say It's fun and safe if you follow the rules, I'm not forcing you to own one why force me not too? (not word for word, but something like that)


    Hasn't failed yet, usually ends the conversation though.
     
  6. carterbeauford

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    Yeah, my 2A-friendly, yet non-gun-owning girlfriend said "put that thing away before my mom sees it" on a recent vacation, referring to my X2-equipped PT145 laying on the table. I guess the X2 makes it look especially intimidating. I said "your mother has no need to be afraid of inanimate objects." :rolleyes:
     
  7. creampuff

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    Most of my requests are from co-workers who tongue-in-cheek, request that I "kill someone", that happens to be annoying him/her that day. I usually just brush off their comments, and think to myself that I am glad that I am the responsible gun owner and not them. :)
     
  8. The-Fly

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    i've only gotten the body guard request once, and i decided to do it for the person asking, simply because the person asking is vision impaired (and a good friend) and isn't capable of using a firearm or really defending themselves with any real degree of ability.

    Fortunately the situation worked out to be a non event.
     
  9. Justin

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    I once had a female acquaintance ask if I would lend her a couple of handguns so she could use them for a Halloween party. Evidently she was planning to go as Trinity from The Matrix.

    I politely declined.
     
  10. just one question

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    ...

    I want to see some one try and top that:eek:
     
  11. Frandy

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    Great post. Sheesh...

    No, I can't say that someone I know has ever made such ignorant requests of me.

    However, my dearest and best male friend owns no guns and prefers to avoid them. When I got my Garand, I showed it to him. He did say, "Wow!," but then placed it on his shoulder and marched back and forth, turning around every few steps. He looked like Benny Hill, real silly, actually like a child.

    That's when it hit me that Bob, like so many others who shun firearms, have a kind of stunted growth, a psychological immaturity about guns, just like most of us who probably draw stick figures when we try to draw people. Either no one ever taught us, or we never made the effort to get past that level of awareness and skill. Of course, firearm ignorance is far more dangerous than not being able to draw pictures. Far more dangerous.

    I think schools should teach kids how to swim and how to shoot. :D
     
  12. Bubbles

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    Periodically coworkers will ask me to go get one of my guns so that they can shoot their computers... :D

    For those of you in the DC metro area, remember the "tractorman" incident a few years ago? It tied up commuters in NoVA for two days. My boss called in, told me to go home, get my rifle, and "shoot the b*stard" so that she could get to work.

    The scary thing is that I think she was serious... :what:
     
  13. Daniel T

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    You got that right. Being the gun guy and the computer guy makes me give these kind of looks a lot: :scrutiny:
     
  14. Zen21Tao

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    YES.

    Last semester a fellow classmate that knew I was a gun owner asked me if I would let him use some of my guns at his place (with me there) to make a short film for a project. He wanted to do a shootout scene with blanks and fake blood. :what: :eek: :uhoh:
     
  15. Devonai

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    When I was an armed courier I would occasionally field questions or comments from my customers. Since I was in plainclothes it didn't come up often, but one situation made me realized that some of the customers may not have known I was armed at all.

    I was making a pickup in Boston, and one employee asked me what kind of weapon I carried. His co-worker, a woman that I'd been taking the daily depost from for two years said, "Oh my God, you carry a gun?" I replied yes, I do. She said, "It's scary to think there are people out there carrying guns under their clothes." I replied that the really scary thing is that most of them in Boston don't have permits, have no respect for human life, and that the only rational response is to get a license and carry a firearm of your own.

    The look on her face was priceless.
     
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    I can't say I have had any of these problems yet, however, I HAVE been dreaming that someone will call me up one day and say...

    "I've got this damn 14 point buck in my orchard out at the farm that keeps eating all the apples off the tree. Could you come take care of it for me?"

    OR

    "This whole damn flock of Turkey wake me up every morning at the farm. Think you could come over and thin them out a bit?"

    Of course, every time I load up the car and head down the road? I wake up.
    UGGGHHHH!!!
     
  17. Carl N. Brown

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    I would be tempted to get that "someone", build a fake wound with
    mortician's wax, spead some ketchup, take some pictures, then give
    the pictures to the co-worker with a "Mission accomplished" smirk.
     
  18. EddieCoyle

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    You should've said, "Sure, then next year I'll be going as Paul Newman in Cool Hand Luke."
     
  19. dhoomonyou

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    YEP

    A married couple I know were having an argument (verbal) the wife turns to me to ask for a gun so she can "shoot her husband in the foot".
    My answer of course was NO.

    During the Hurricanes in Florida in 2004 I got a few calls from "friends" asking to
    "borrow" a gun during the storm. Once again my answer was NO.
     
  20. Starter52

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    That "computer guy" comment was great. I'm still laughing. :evil:
     
  21. psyopspec

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    My roommate requested that I take him shooting yesterday if he did the dishes. I can't believe the nerve some people have...
     
  22. AJ Dual

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    A few years back I get an e-mail out of the blue from an old friend/roomate asking to borrow one of my handguns, and this was after I hadn't heard from him for over a year...

    He's a "nice guy", the goofy and hapless lover-not-a-fighter sort, so I at least I doubted he had criminal intent. The biggest vice I knew he had was that in his late-teens/early twenties, he liked dating and living with divorced 30-something single mothers. Nothing "wrong" with that but it was still a bit :scrutiny: for me and the rest of my social circle…

    When we were rooming together, he was inspired by my gun collection enough to buy himself a Ruger 10/22 on my reccomendation as a "first gun", and I took him shooting a few times.

    He demonstrated reasonably safe gun-handling around me, but he was an awful shot, even at 15 yards with a rifle. Nothing I tried could help him. I later found out he had perscription eye-wear, but was too vain to wear it. (Even though he was wearing shooting glasses anyway...)

    So I never offered to take him shooting again...

    So while I was confident he had no bad intent, I just knew he wanted to borrow one of my handguns for a really, really stupid reason.

    On a hunch, I looked him up on the Wisconsin Circuit Court system, and found he'd been arraigned on charges of "Reckless Endangerment of Children".... So I strung him along, demanding details.

    That's when the whole sordid tale came out.

    He was living with his current girlfriend, a divorced 30-something ten years older than he, with two kids. (Surprise!). He was having a sleepless night, so about 3:00am he gets a wild hair up his arse to clean his 10/22, while sitting on the bed next to his sleeping girlfriend.

    Of course, its loaded, and he had no idea. He ND's a .22 into the ceiling of the bedroom, and it scares him so badly, be bump-fires three more right after it. Up through the cieling into the room where her kids are sleeping upstairs…

    The kids are fine, thankfully, although the .22's penetrated all the way into the attic… She's obviously rather P.O.'ed, but still being in the "honeymoon" phase, and posessed with the level of required judgment to have him as a boyfriend in the first place, forgives him. The kids are sworn to secrecy.

    Of course the kids tell Dad on their next visitation, and he, being rather P.O'ed at being divorced, and his wife sleeping with my 10-year-younger ex-roomie, runs it all the way up the flagpole to the police, the DA, and Child Protective Services. (Can't say I blame him...)

    So now my "friend" is in court with a public defender, and staring some serious charges in the face.

    He wants to borrow one of my handguns so he can drive to Illinois to take a "Basic Gun Safety" class at the first gun store within 100 miles of Milwaukee that had one scheduled before his court-date. His theroy being he could show his remedial education to the court before he goes to trial. As if that would impress the judge, LOL…

    I told him no. Not that there was Powerball lotto's millionaire's martini ice cube's chance in hell the answer would have been yes for whatever reason he could come up with.

    I followed his case on the website, and luckily for him it got plead down to some kind of misdemeanor "Unlawful discharge of firearms within city limits" sort of thing, and he got probation...
     
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    I once had somebody in the neighborhood come up and ask me if I could tell them how much a black market "silenced 9mm" would cost, and where they could get one for $20,000. :banghead:
    I pretty much dismissed their question.
     
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    Amen brother. Sometimes I wish someone would ask me to shoot something just for the change of pace.
     
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    I once had somebody in the neighborhood come up and ask me if I could tell them how much a black market "silenced 9mm" would cost, and where they could get one for $20,000.

    You should have sold him a second hand Glock with part of a bicycles handlebars stuck on the end. :D
     
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