For my 3 each .45 ACP pistols, no. All 3 shoot 230 gr FMJ over 5.0 gr of 231/HP-38 just fine. Our 3 each .40 cal’s shoot 180 gr FMJ over Longshot just fine. But, my Gen 5 G19 shoots the 115 gr FMJ over Longshot much better than my wife’s Walther CCP and both our Taurus PT111 G2’s. The accuracy isn’t bad out of them, but could be better. No where near as accurate as the G19. I’ll have to tinker with other loads for those guns later.