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Does anyone actually carry a Walker or is it just a range gun?

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by ChasMack, May 8, 2013.

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  1. alienbogey

    alienbogey Member

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    I'm going from memory here, but I believe the Rooster Cogburn's line was:

    "By God girl, that's a Colt's Dragoon! Why, you're no bigger than a corn nubbin, what're you doin' with all this pistol?"

    Now, I couldn't tell you if the pistol that Mattie carried in her poke—and later shot Tom Chaney with—appeared to be a Dragoon or a Walker, but if the Duke said it was a Dragoon then for me it was a Dragoon.

    Oh, and here's a picture of my Walker:

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  2. kituwa

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    Alien, now that walker looks like one i can imagine a texas ranger would have kept after they were no longer issued and more modern guns came along, but was his baby and personal escort.As us indians would say,,"how does she shoot",?
     
  3. Big Al Mass

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    In the original picture, the gun used was a Walker, even though it was referred to as a Dragoon. However, in the recent remake, a Dragoon was used.

    By the way, how did you make that loading lever clip?
     
  4. freedom475

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    When I was quite young I really wanted a pistol...At a Mnt Man gathering one time I found a SWEAT pistol.!! I threw my money on the table and the man handed me my new gun, a can of Real BP ,lead, and caps. I said thank you sir. I quess those were the days,..No questions, or even odd looks. Just a "Now you be carful sonny."...(is it really dreaming to hope those days would come back for my son :rolleyes:)

    As soon as I got it home I took an old pair of cowboy boots and went to work on a holster. It was a X-draw with a steep cant probly like 65-70degrees, with a long belt loop accross the back.

    Well this was before internet so I didn't know any better...with no one to tell me I couldn't carry my Walker in a holster...Thats just what I did....

    Hell I didn't even know it was a abnormally large gun:D It was just MY Pistol, and I carried it everywhere. All over the Mountains in SW MT and NW Wyoming,,,I carred it for years and it just seemed normal. I hunted with it, I gold panned with it, rode horses with it, I fished with it.....The big gun was just always there, no matter what I was doing...But I never went to town much.:D
     
  5. StrawHat

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    These two weigh about the same.

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    No, I don't have a double rig for them. But after drawing with either one of them for a while, it makes the belt models jump from leather!
     
  6. rondog

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    At my hunter's safety course here in CO, I asked if one could hunt deer with a C&B revolver, and was told "no, BP pistols are illegal to use".

    "Even with my .44 cal. Colt Walker?"

    "Nope, can't even use that. BP rifles only."

    Which I thought was ridiculous.
     
  7. kituwa

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    Do you have a IWB holster for that Walker snubbie?,lol.I was thinking maybe one of those spring loaded contraptions for the derringers on wild wild west that goes up your shirt sleave.Lol,i bet a walker in one of those rigs would snatch your whole arm out of socket. Seriously, does that cut down walker have much more recoil? I know you said it didnt lose a lot of weight but thought maybe since it wouldnt be as front heavy it may jump a bit more.When guys have watches me fire off a few in my walker and heard the canon like boom they were afraid to fire it thinking it would kick the snot out of them and were always surprized at how mild it really is.Of coarse it may be from me fooling them into fireing some full house loads in the 4 1/2 inch custom black hawk i had.I used 300gr bullets at 1500fps in those loads and the recoil was wicked.Few people ever asked to shoot it more than one time,lol.
     
  8. Cosmoline

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    alienbogey--where did you get that little brass keeper for the lever? That's just the sort of thing I'm looking for.
     
  9. freedom475

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    It only takes a couple well placed strokes on the retention spring with a file to completely END the lever falling down problem....be carful and go slow.

    It is acutally easy to end up with a lever that cannot be pulled down.

    Pay attention where the lever sets at it's folded position so you don't file any slack into the lever retention spring.

    I see tons of gimicks and strings...and this is SO EASY to fix!;)
     
  10. 1KPerDay

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    Except to visit the chiropractor. :D
     
  11. Cosmoline

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    I think the Colt was called a "walker" because it could be used as a cane if you hurt your foot.

    Yeah I did file it. It's stiffer but still pops loose every time. I'm pretty sure there's some variation in spring design and strength between the various repros out there.

    Anyway I think I can rig a brass clip by cutting a tube of sufficient diameter.
     
  12. freedom475

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    He'll probly chime back in with how he did that clip....he/they posted the complete process with pics and instructions on a forum about a year or two ago.
     
  13. 4v50 Gary

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    If you're talking about the brass clip that keeps the Walker's snapping turtle jaws effect closed, solder two pieces of brass.
     
  14. StrawHat

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    I do not notice any differnce in recoil between the 5 inch barrel and a 9 inch barrel.
     
  15. kBob

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    Check out the Walker Club for a discussion on keeping the lever up. Those clips were described in the Club a year or two back. It is much more elegant than tying the thing to the barrel with a leather shoe lace.

    Someone was offering to make them at one point.

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    stlm1 was making some for a few folks it seems and may have been the first to post such a clip for holding the loading lever in place.

    -kBob
     
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  16. Mr. D

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    I reenact with a couple of guys who carry Walkers on their belt. The one guy is a hulk - probably 6' 8" and 250 lbs without being fat. The other guy, though is a little shorter than average and pretty skinny. He's in his 70's too.

    I carry a Dragoon.

    Not the most flattering picture, but here I am carrying it. It is in the holster you see on my left side.
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    In action - I'm the guy second from the right and, it's kind of hard to see, but the Dragoon is in my right hand:
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    ~D
     
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    Very cool!
     
  18. freedom475

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    that looks like fun!:D
     
  19. alienbogey

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    In answer to questions about my Walker:

    I didn't make the brass loading lever retainer, it came with the pistol when I bought it, but it's simply two pieces of brass soldered together. Whether the maker started with brass tubing or flat stock that he shaped himself I can't really tell. It slides on and off the barrel/loading lever easily but has enough friction that it stays on without a problem, and it keeps the loading lever up under fire without a problem.

    I've since browned the C&B cylinder to match the rest of the revolver, and I have a conversion .45 Colt cylinder for it also.

    It shoots just fine, with .45 Colt smokeless or .45 Colt BP or cap & ball (as God and Colonel Colt intended).
     
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    Went to Dixie Gun Works yesterday and handled both the Walker and Dragoon side by side. As I said throughout this thread, the difference is negligible. If you can handle the Dragoon, in hand or on your hip, you can handle the Walker. First time I handled a Walker, I was shocked at how huge it was. After spending a year with the Dragoon, it's much more manageable. It's all about spending enough time with them to become accustomed to the mass. I almost bought one but found the Schofield was calling me louder. I'll probably get the Walker when I accumulate enough points on my Cabela's Visa to pay for it.
     
  21. Cosmoline

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    Well I found the opposite handling the Dragoon at Sportsman's Warehouse ;-) But I may well have to get the thing just to see who's right.
     
  22. hartcreek

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    Before you buy go into the store and compare a Blackhawk and a model 29 with a long barrel a Casul if they have one and a walker. There really isnt that much difference in the weights but there sure is in the price.
     
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    Percussion pistols are legal for deer hunting during Missouri's "Alternative Methods" season...the fancy new name for combining muzzleloader and archery postseasons.
     
  24. CraigC
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    As the owner of a shiny new Uberti Colt Walker replica, I have to stand behind everything I've posted in this thread. As you can see, the Walker is only 1.5" longer in barrel length and perhaps a quarter inch in cylinder length. According to my scale, it is indeed 5oz heavier than the 3rd Model Dragoon. I'll be offering holsters for these, starting with one for myself. In hand, the difference in weight is unnoticeable. They're both very large, heavy sixguns. Like I said, if you can handle a Dragoon on your belt, you can handle the Walker. For me, the Walker's grip is actually more comfortable.

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    Compared to a Pietta .36 Navy London model:
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  25. tembotusk

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    Has anybody designed a back carry holster for the Walker/Dragoon? Similar to how some people carry a shotgun on their back.

    Reach over your shoulder or behind your neck and grab the pistol. Your back carries the weight and nothing is banging on your hip. I would imagine it would be a great way to carry for hiking, motorcycle/horse riding etc.
     
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