Does anyone have experience with binary triggers? Does this make sense?

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  1. Tortuga

    Tortuga Member

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    Howdy gang!

    So with impending ammunition shortages, I've been doing a lot of plinking with a .22. I've recently been looking at the GSG 44 Stermgewehr (chambered in .22 LR):



    It seems like a cute addition to the armory, but I'm actually curious if it's realistic to install a binary trigger in one of these? I've poking around on the internet, and it seems like most people are just buying binary triggers that match the specific firearm they're looking to put it in.

    My Questions:

    1. Does this modification require any FFL stamps / special legal BS? I don't think it does from my reading, but I'd like to be sure (no I don't live in commie-fornia).

    2. Is there a specific brand of binary trigger that would work well for this? Or am I out of luck and it isn't possible? Are there more general alternatives people have played with (such as a bumpfire triggers)?

    3. Does anyone have any experience installing them? Would this require machining or equipment that I don't have (I'd have to take it to a smith?)

    4. Do they result in increased jams? I feel like my military experience in armory would suggest the lack of a sear traditionally reserved for burst / rapid rates of fire could potentially result in shotty performance (pun intended). Any experience here?

    Even if I don't put one this particular weapon (I haven't bought it, I'm just thinking about it), does anyone like using a binary trigger at all? Hate it? General thoughts?
     
  2. sarduy

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    A: Its different, and shooting on release is a bit weird until you get used to it.
     
  3. Tortuga

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    Is it possible to install one in one of these?
     
  4. buba68

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    Binary triggers are not generic they are made for a specific make and model of gun. No special legal stuff to buy and install one. If you have any mechanical ability you should be able to install one in your gun, no machining required. If your gun functions ok before you install a binary trigger it should function ok after one is installed.

    The Ruger 10-22 is a popular gun to put one in. Something to consider is they are expensive, they enable you to go through a lot of ammo in a short period of time and in the current situation, short supplies and high prices that equals a lot of money too. Would they be a lot of fun, yes at least for a short period of time. So it is your money spend it as you like.
     
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  5. buba68

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    Best way to find out call customer service for the company that makes the trigger and ask them if they make one for the gun you are thinking about buying.
     
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  6. Tortuga

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    This is pretty much the thread. Thanks.
     
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  7. CapnMac

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    For my 2¢, they are junk.
    You only get simulated auto experience by "fluttering" the trigger and using a loose hold during recoil (aka "shoestring technique").
    The hassle is not really worth the expense--in my book. Your mileage may vary.
    As noted above, those triggers are not cheap, not a $25 sort of thing, but closer to a couple hundred. All for something that may very well leave you dissatisfied.

    That GSG is already a fun rig as is. Being .22lr, you can just rapidly manipulate the trigger to increase fire volume (and you are likely to keep mostly on target). It feels as heavy as an 8x33, which is novel, but can be wearying in a .22lr--again YMMV. It definitely has a "cool" factor second to none (including GSG's fake-can Uzi).
     
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  8. Hokkmike

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    Off topic a bit - but please scrutinize GSG before buying. My GSG AK was probably the poorest quality gun I have ever purchased.
     
  9. wholymoly

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    The Ruger Mini-14 trigger can be made to do the same with the strategic addition of a staple. The price was right so I tried it on mine. The novelty of the experience wore off pretty quickly so the staple disappeared at the next cleaning.
     
  10. MistWolf

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    The Binary Trigger is the most entertaining way to turn money into noise this side of full-auto. For some reason, shooting a suppressed 22 with subsonic ammo and a Binary Trigger at a rock 200 yards away makes us giggle like school-girls with Justin Beiber backstage passes. Brutal muzzle blast firing bursts from a 5.56 10.5" barrel with a Battlecomp. Rate of fire is slower than full-auto but a lot cheaper. No "fluttering" or "holding it loosely" required to get it to work.

    I'm unaware of anyone making a Binary Trigger or something similar for the GSG ST44.
     
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