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Does anyone know what the deal is with Airsoft players??

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Ridge, Apr 1, 2005.

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  1. Ridge

    Ridge Member

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    Don't get me wrong I'm not downing them or anything but,I was looking around an Airsoft website and they're charging from $375.00 to $700.00 for bb guns.

    Just one question....W.T.F.?
     
  2. CleverName

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    They're almost all imported, it's a lot harder to seriously hurt somebody with a airsoft gun, and generally a lot less "restricted" than gun ownership. Besides, $700 for a automatic BB gun is a whole lot cheaper than at several thousand for a MAC-11.

    Thing I hate about the airsoft community though is that all the weapons are customized "Mall Ninja" style - everything is designed to look nice (or more importantly to them, unique). I've seen several TM MP5's converted to the HK94 long barrel.
     
  3. Ridge

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    I'm sorry but it just strikes me as a little odd,B.T.W. I saw a few of those "Mall ninja" shoot out their eyes pea shooters,I'm sorry but if I wanted a bb gun I'd buy a red ryder or a crossman,and pay alot less.
     
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    Yeah, but a Red Ryder doesn't look like the newest greatest Hi-Speed Lo-Drag Snake-eater tactical carbine. Half of the appeal of airsoft is that they look like real guns, and you can shoot people with them fairly safely (they're (probably) not much more dangerous than paintball) - ideal for the Walter Mitty/Mall Ninja in all of us. Airsoft is also the only way a Californian 16 year old can "own" a FA-anything resembling a rifle.

    And if I have the choice between being shot by a Crossman firing metal BB's or an electric Airsoft with the plastic ones...

    Oh yeah, remember that Airsoft started in Japan, where DC/California's gun laws look positively permissive. This is the closest most Japanese will get to a real gun unless they either join the SDF/Police or move.
     
  5. cracked butt

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    I remember reading awhile back that a Japanese kid came to the US and cleaned up on some pistol shooting discipline- steel plates I think. The closest thing he had to practice with in his homeland was an airsoft pistol.

    A lot of the high end airsoft guns make airguns look like unsophisticated toys. Why would you want a red ryder when you can have an M16 of HK clone that you can shoot FA for very cheap (not counting the price of the rifle of course)
     
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    aren't they kind of like toys? i mean they dont even use real BB's, the BB's made of plastic.
     
  7. jobu07

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    I'm sure if you were "in to" air soft it would justify the cost. Using it every weekend or something. They probably look at us and say "why spend a grand on that rifle, i'll never use it?" Or something to that avail. To each his own I say. If they like it and are responisble enough while doing it to not run around pointing the "toys" at cops, then let them have thier fun! :)

    Personally, i'll stick to the real deal.
     
  8. Browns Fan

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    I, too, fail to see the draw. Every time I see these things at a gun show, I'm a little puzzled. :confused:
     
  9. Harry Tuttle

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    did y'all miss the 6 page riotous thread on AR15.com about the habits of Airsofties?
     
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    People play it just like paintball, dress up in camo, go out into the woods and shoot each other with them. People spend well over a grand on paintball guns.
     
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    I did indeed miss the thread on AR-15 as i don't frequent that site. Do you have a link? I'd like to see it.
     
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    Maybe they're the rejects from the loser, eh I mean lazer, tag community. :rolleyes:
     
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    Hey, to each his or her own. I have an airsoft pistol. Fun, quiet target practice in my garage. Of course, I paid $20 for the gun (Sig 226), ammo, and sticky target.

    I can't understand paying a fortune for an airsoft gun either. BUt, I'd imagine some of teh airsoft people can't undertsnad why I pay so much for real ammo when the plastic pelets are so cheap.
     
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    Airsoft is also the cheapest way for a group of people to practice force on force. The air blow back pistols look like the real thing, function very closely to the real thing (At least mine does but it is for a Glock 19) has simular weight, and fits holsters made for the G-19. Cheap way of doing force on force training as long as the scenerios are kept withen reason.
     
  16. cracked butt

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    That arfcom thread is freaking hillarious. But one has to question the motives of people belonging to a site dedicated to plastic mouseguns calling those who play with platic bb guns "poseurs and wannabe's" Hello Mr Kettle, this is Mr Pot calling. :D
     
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    Well, it's a hell of a lot easier to get Airsoft guns over here. There's a community over here practically, so there isn't as much frowning done on us as there would be if we owned real guns.
     
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    I perused that thread some nights back. Interesting read, to say the least. Most of the contributors in that thread could have been a bit more diplomatic in expressing their distaste for Airsoft.

    I was, however, shocked at the almost complete lack of trigger and muzzle discipline exhibited by the Airsoft players depicted in the images. Almost every person shown holding an Airsoft model had his finger on the trigger. I wonder if any of them would handle a real firearms the same way. Scary!


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    I've got a $20 single-shot Airsoft pistol for training purposes, it's pretty realistic in weight, they put weights in the magazine. You can also get 6mm paintballs for them.

    What pi$$ed me off was once when I somehow linked to a UK airsoft site, and they were ranting about how awful it was that it was so "easy" for we Americans to get the real thing. MYOFB.

    :cuss:
     
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    So far the only airsoft gun that has tempted me was a FA M1 Thompson clone. Too bad they wanted something like $350 for it, I'd rather buy the snub revolver I've been looking for for that price.
     
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    I wish i could shoot MY sar-1 for $19 for 5000 rounds...

    I can't say i really played much airsoft, but i played alot of paintball...






    Its the same reason people spend $1000 on a rifle that they shoot paper with once a month, dont hunt with, and show off to their friends...

    1) They can
    2) Its FUN
    3) They enjoy it.
     
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    a good gas blow back airsoft pistol goes for $100 spair mag $30 gas 1000ml $15 saftey glasses $10 and 5000 bbs for $ 15. get an area to pratice room clearing and reloads with the targets shooting back... priceless

    not as real as it could be when in the woods since you can be protected by a shrub an the range isnt there but. when it comes to room clearing and close quaters they are great to add some movement to targets and haveing to take cover. cause paper dont shoot back, even if it is only plastic bbs.

    I have a airsoft pistol that is the same as my carry/idpa gun. so I can pratice with the same holster pouches and sometimes I learn somthing at one and use it at the other. so I get the best of both worlds. it makes it a good training aid but is no replacement to real gun training .
     
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    What I don't like about airsoft is the elitist attitude of some "squads" (or whatever they call themselves) if you ever feel like actually shooting someone other than the neighborhood kids (in a safe manner, using eye protection, with all guns clearly marked with orange, and the police notified ahead of time, etc). "What? All you've got is a GBB and a springer? Where's your camo that doesn't even make it harder to see you at airsoft ranges? Where's your red-dot scope, even though the max range for these things is 100 feet? Where's your super-tactical camel pack thingo? Get outta here, kid, and don't come back until you've spent at least a grand on worthless junk!"

    The most I've paid is $100 for a gas blow-back 1911, because:

    1. It's fun
    2. Trigger time is trigger time (though I think I've gotten spoiled by that 2.5 pound trigger)
    3. It's fun!
    4. That particular model uses CO2 powerlets instead of overpriced gas (120 shots per powerlet, and it's about 5 times more powerful than the airsoft version of the Crosman 1008, which only gets 50 shots/powerlet)
    5. IT'S FUN!
    6. It's got all the controls in exactly the same spots, so the muscle memory will already be there when I save up the $5,000 for a real 1911.
     
  24. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Personally, I hate to see gun people bashing the Airsoft crowd. Last time I looked, it wasn't like we had enough political power to be very secure in our rights.

    Now along comes a group that is in to gun-like things (and the fun ones at that, not just the John Kerry approved $20k side-by-sides). They are into tactics and they are actually pretty knowledgable about a lot of nylon gear that is quite useful if you plan to shoot anywhere there isn't a table and range cart set up for all of your gear. They even get attacked by the blissninnies in many countries with calls to outlaw or restrict their relatively modest toys.

    For bonus points, they are comprised primarily of young people who will be playing a major role in deciding whether this country (and others) wants more liberty or less in the future.

    We should be doing everything we can to share our collective knowledge with these people. Not only will we likely learn something in return, we'll ultimately help ourselves by adding more people who care about liberty and prize their rights.
     
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    I've tried it a few times and I have to admit, it was pretty fun! My buddy kept saying "C'mon, you get to practice 'force on force' instead of just shooting at things that don't move. . ." Well, it sounded good, but in reality, we were all just running around freelancing (no real team tactics) :eek: .

    To make matters worse, since you have to wear a face-mask for protection, you can't get a cheekweld for your assault rifle, so I was forced to spray and pray :uhoh: (with a pistol, you can at least use the sights).

    As far as the guys I was playing with, some of them owned real guns as well, but rarely shot them and probably have more money put into the airsoft stuff than the real stuff. But that sorta makes sense for them since they use their airsoft stuff a lot more.

    I suppose I'd be more open to buying this stuff if it wasn't for all the real guns I'd rather spend my disposable income on. Hmmm. . . last month I spent a couple hundred bucks on a milsurp Enfield bolt-action rifle. That rifle doesn't really add anything to my ability to defend myself or my country. I'm not going to take it out hunting. The most interesting thing I'm probably going to do with it is see if I can get "15 aimed shots in one minute" with it, since I hear that was the minimum standard of qualification with the Enfield (I admit that it's mainly for bragging rights ;) ). I don't really see how I'm superior to some guy who spends a couple hundred bucks on a toy just so he can safely shoot his friends :scrutiny: .
     
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