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Does Anyone Live In a Home That's in 2 States?Interesting Gun Law Scenarios.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Duke Junior, Sep 19, 2008.

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  1. Duke Junior

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    Now if those 2 states are Montana and North Dakota you probably have few, if any problems.
    But what if your living room is in Vermont and the back bedrooms are in Massachusetts?:uhoh:Wonder how the gun laws play out in these situations?
    Does anywhere here live or know someone that lives in 2 states?Thousands do across the US.Bristol TN/VA is a well known example as is Kansas City KS/MO.
    No rivers dividing,just imaginary lines.
     
  2. Hook686

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    Must be pretty dull and boring in NC tonight.
     
  3. Thernlund

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    The determining factor will be your address. That can't be in two states at once.


    -T.
     
  4. Duke Junior

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    Now that was cruel and true!It's always delightfully boring in the mountains.:D
    What is your lively state Hook?Perhaps I should consider a move.
    You must admit its a novel question though.Just jealous because I got to it first?:neener:
     
  5. NavyLCDR

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    That depends:

    If you leave your house via the front door into State A, then you have to purchase the gun in state a.

    If you leave your house via the back door into State B, then you have to purchase the gun in state b.

    If you left your house via the front into State A, and you subsequently find a gun you want to buy in state B, then you must re-enter your home via the front door from state A and exit it via the back door into State B.

    :neener: DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV.


    This reply is entirely in jest and not meant to be taken seriously by anyone!
     
  6. Duke Junior

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    But Hook686 does.I can swear I saw him on Law and Order berating Fred Thompson.:cool:
    Sounds like the best answer....so far.;)
     
  7. Treo

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    I'm sure there are several farms and ranches on the CO/NEB border that are in both states CO is an open carry state & I don't think Neb. is so I could see some issues if you were carrying on your own land.

    I think about half of the people that work at the Cabella's in Sidney Nebraska live in Colorado I imagine their income tax is a bear. & I suppose if they wanted to CC ( leagal in your car W/out permit in Co. not so in Neb.) they might have to get two permits.
     
  8. Kind of Blued

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    Kansas & Missouri is an interesting example in that Missouri has half of Kansas City and half of St. Louis (theoretically, I know residents get uppity about this.)

    I lived in Kansas City for 22 years but unfortunately didn't really get into guns until shortly before I moved.

    Of the few things I noticed are the somewhat obvious ones. You'll hear the guys at the gun counter asking "Do you live in (whichever state the shop is in)?" when explaining how easy the paperwork is (or CAN be).

    Kansas recently received their rights back in regard to NFA weapons and I believe Missouri followed in suit close behind them. Whether this was to fix the ridiculous idea that driving across the street with a suppressor in your car or because Missouri wised up in light of Kansas' changes, I don't know.

    From what I know carry laws are quite similar but I would guess not exactly the same. Nevertheless, they both acknowledge each other's carry permits.

    Sorry I couldn't be of more help! I moved to Colorado, found the laws to be pleasantly un-restrictive and settled down with a smile. :)

    One interesting thing that I remember is that motorcyclists were required to wear a helmet in one state, but not the other. Consequently, you'd see a lot of guys riding in KS without a helmet, but one on the seat behind them.
     
  9. fizik

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    well if we're considering the carry side of things, if the two states had reciprocity agreements i wouldn't see a problem. :shrug:
     
  10. EOD Guy

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    I do know that military personnel stationed at Ft Campbell, KY can purchase firearms, including handguns, in both Ky and TN since since parts of the installation are in both states.

    In any similar situation, I would ask BATF for an Opinion.
     
  11. Chuck Spears

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    But what if your house sits on the Canadian or Mexican border?
     
  12. SCKimberFan

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    Then I feel sorry for you, either way.
     
  13. DC300a

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    I am with Thernlund.

    Your address would determine what your actions should be.
     
  14. Eric F

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    I agree
     
  15. Henry Bowman

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    Which state issued the building permit? And on what authority did they "permit" the construction in the other state?
     
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    If I lived in a house in Texarkana, I'd have a CHL from the state that my address says I'm in but the CHL would be recognized by both Texas and Arkansas.


     
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    I have a primary residence and a PT residence in another state. I checked with the ATF and they recognize this situation and say that I am considered a resident in both states for purposes of buying and selling guns and I have bought and sold guns in both states without a peep from dealers or the ATF. All you need is a state issued ID and in one state I have a driver's license and in the other a state issued ID card.
     
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    Yesterday, 11:34 PM #4

    Duke Junior wrote:

    Hi Duke .... I live in exciting California .... nothing ever gets dull and boring around here ... except maybe the state budget. My apology if it seemed cruel ... it was not so intended.
     
  19. Duke Junior

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    No need to apologize at all Hook.I took it in the spirit of good fun!:)
    I lived in your beautiful State for 4 years(San Francisco and Castro Valley)and have many fond memories.
    Aside from the politics,to me ,the people are the friendliest and the scenery is the most fabulous.And I've been in every state but Hawaii.
    The Golden State will always be wonderful to this guy.Regards.
     
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    I seem to recall hearing about a story a long time ago about a house that is partially in IL and partially in WI. Been a long time so do not recall much about it.
     
  21. Artiz

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    If your house sits right on the border, I feel sorry for you, but because it is a clear separation between the two sides (checked on google map, it's a road/clear separation between two places/bridge/etc), I don't think you can have your "house" righ on the line, maybe just close to (checked on google map).
    Anyway, if your place is IN U.S, I mean your adress (papers, etc), but you are really close to Canada, then just go to the lowest priced wally-world, the only difference will be ammo and rifle in one, but fishing stuff in the other XD.
    I would really like to be righ on the line, would be cool, :D.

    Edit: I see a clear cut between Canada and U.S, a straight line, cut trees, there is probably the longest ATV trail lol, so yes it's a straight line (for the biggest part), and it's clearly visible, looks like 10m large.
     
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  22. Badlander

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    I was in A bar in two counties in Tennesee. After midnight and sundays you had to stay in one side of the building.
    Does this count?
     
  23. ZDavidoff

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    Either way you're screwed as far as gun laws go. No CC, need a FOID to buy ammo, and your weapons will start getting gunked up with cheddar.
     
  24. Aguila Blanca

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    I disagree.

    It affects schools, not guns, but we have a small subdivision a couple of miles from me that's in the next town. The town line is a small river, which runs parallel to a state highway that (at that point) is in my town. The only access into the subdivision is from the state road, so their address is in my town.

    However, their property is located 100 percent in the next town, they pay 100 percent of their taxes to the next town, and their kids attend school in the next town.

    I have also heard of situations in Vermont and New Hampshire where kids can choose where they attend school according to which room of the house they sleep in. The determining factor isn't your address, it's where you pay your taxes. If the house itself (not just the land) actually straddles the town line, you pay taxes in both towns and you get to choose which one to use for what purpose.
     
  25. Rio Laxas

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    I think you would definately be subject to the laws of the state you are currently in, even if that means you are subject to the gun laws of Mass. in one room and the gun laws in Vermont of another.

    Boundaries are boundaries and there are no exeptions. If you are definately inside of a state you are definately subject to its laws.

    Can you say beyond a reasonable doubt where the state line is if it is not a physical feature or monumented? I don't think you could unless you are a surveyor.

    I have done surveys that were in two different counties. Unless it is a physical feature or it has been monumented, you can only really approximate the line. Also, it may be a straight line in theory, but not in reality.

    Now in practice, I doubt it would ever be an issue. You might have a problem if you house was half in VA and half in DC though.
     
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