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Does Colt still make DA revolvers?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Lucky, Mar 10, 2007.

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  1. Lucky

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    Last I heard the civvie branch of Colt had virtually shut down, other than some commemerative guns and similar items. No DA revolvers for years, and I think many of their SA antique repros are actually relabeled imports.
     
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    According to Wikipedia,

    "Colt Manufacturing Co. announced the termination of its production of Anaconda and other double-action revolvers in October 1999"

    Hope this helps somewhat. Also according to wikipedia, you could still get the Python from their custom shop as late as 2003. They claim lack of sales and rising production costs in the decision to discontinue manufacturing.

    Justin
     
  4. Harve Curry

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    No more DA's.
    No Italian parts.
    COLT SAA's are made at the Colt Custom Shop, all in the good 'ol USA.
    The 3rd generation Colt SAA's are some of the best made now, a great value that will appreciate as always. I know I just bought a new one:)
     
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    Harve Curry

    If you don't mind me asking, how much $$$ for the Colt? How long was the wait? Is it still original in terms of need to carry on an empty chamber?

    Just curious--thanks.
     
  6. Lucky

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    Thanks, how do Tauruses compare?
     
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    Comparing a Taurus to a Colt is funny.:neener:

    No Colt Double Action revolvers manufactured anymore.
     
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    Mine was engraved, BCC, 44spl, 4 3/4" barrel, with 3 gold lines in the front sight for elevation like in Elmer Keith's book SIXGUNS. Took about 17 months and $1900. I'm happy with it and it's a shooter capable of 8 1/2", 6 shot groups at 100 yards. I told COLT I was going to use it and what I expected.:)
     
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    Last I heard the civvie branch of Colt had virtually shut down, other than some commemerative guns and similar items. No DA revolvers for years, and I think many of their SA antique repros are actually relabeled imports.

    ABTOMAT
    Where do all the new 1911's their making fall . Colt is alive and well Just not makeing DA wheel guns any more. But other Colt guns can be bought.
    If it stamped Colt its Colt not walmart china.
     
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    Thank you! I'm indebted.
     
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    The Old Fuff will now rise in defense of the Taurus. :eek:

    He finds it to be a well made, reasonably priced shooter, intended for those whose budgets won’t accommodate $1000.00 – and then some - collectables. Unlike the other well known brand, you can “carry six and rest the hammer on a loaded chamber." When put to the test they will punch holes in paper (or whatever) just as well as the higher priced six-shooters.

    Now admittedly there is something special about a Colt, but I’m not sure it’s “that special” for the man (or woman) that just wants to bust some caps. And when one considers that the cost of the “made in Hartford,” revolver will buy a pair of the South American contender’s offering, one has to wonder. :scrutiny:
     
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    Thanks for info Harve--it sounds sweet. That was no small sack of gold they wanted for it but if you want an original non-repro---they have the one monopoly on a new one.
     
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    Yea, about 3 ounces of gold, it use to be a Colt was worth the same as a once of gold and visa-versa.
     
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    I visited the Colt website (http://www.coltsmfg.com/cmci/Python_C.asp) to see what might be new, and the answer is .... nothing.

    The latest posted news item is from June, 2004. They do list a 2006 catalog, but it contains nothing in the way of double-action revolvers. The page on the Python is dated from 2003.

    Colt doesn't even seem interested enough to keep their website up to date. Their current production consists of 1911 platform pistols and Custom Shop 1873 Single Actions. These are unquestionably quality products, but they are hardly enough for the company to be considered to be a true manufacturer as opposed to a small, semi-custom shop. This is a sad situation, and an excellent example of what can happen to an old and venerated name in the business when its management during past years - starting just after World War Two - is incompetent.
     
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    Taurus have been improving on their overall quality (so I hear). I really don't want to put Taurus down. Colt is not the Colt of old any more either. Taurus improved their product line and Colt reduced their's. Colt and Smith & Wesson were always competing head to head. Which was better? Who knows? Taurus was somewhere behind them.

    I really want to get one of the Taurus's revolvers that handles the 410 ga and 45LC. And, I am not expecting a substandard product.
     
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    Around my neck of the woods it's rare to see a new Colt anything.

    The company is a prime example of total corporate incompetence.

    Their failure to read the market demand for 1911's in the mid 1980's through the mid 1990's opened the whole field up to Kimber, Springfield Armory and so on.

    What a loss, to see such an historic company like Colt eat itself alive.
     
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    Uh Oh! Colt hasn't shut down there making 1911's, SAA's and Ar-15's. According to Mark at Colt. They are alive and doing well. He also stated they sell every gun they make. Colt's aren't hard to find if you know where to look. Just this weekend myself and two shooting partners went into a LS and we all left with a Colt, And I put another one on layaway.... And Also Colt makes and produces the SAA here in the USA. But at least you were right on one thing. They don't make DA revolvers right now.....:cool:
     
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    Probably true... The trouble is they don't seem to make very many of them. They've become a relatively small custom shop, rather then what they were - a major manufacturer. Over the years the management keeps discontinuing models without replacing them. A company that was up and coming wouldn't have a website where the latest news was dated June, 2004.

    But then, Colt hasn't had any new introductions in years...

    I get no pleasure from writing this because I have always been a Colt fan, and a number of older ones remain favorites. But the time comes when one does have to wake up and smell the coffee. :uhoh: :banghead:
     
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    I wouldn't say that a company that makes several thousand guns a month a custom shop, I have to disagree with you on that. I also could care less about their website. It functions and it shows what's available. I do wish they would bring back a DA revolver. Such as the Anaconda and the King Cobra. Both pretty decent offerings.;)
     
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    +1. Colt's incompetence is staggering. I carry a Colt DA revolver, and would love to see their whole line back in production (although it's unlikely to ever happen).
     
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    Many people fail to understand. Todays Colt is NOT the corporate Colt that seemed to try to put the firearms division out of business.

    THAT Colt was a tiny part of a huge corporation, that the corporation seemed to be embarrassed of.
    Every year or so, the corporation would send down a new firearms division president, and these men usually knew nothing about guns and really couldn't care less.

    In order to make a good showing for the corporation brass so they could get a nice promotion out of the "icky" gun part of the corporation, they'd introduce new models, cancel the new models, discontinue old models, reintroduce them again, only to discontinue them again.
    All that was necessary was for the firearms division to show a profit for the year or so the president was there.
    This uncertainty about what was available or was going to be available made it tough for distributors, FFL Dealers, and customers to know what to expect from Colt.

    In the late 90's Colt firearms division went bankrupt and the current Colt is what is left after the corporation dumped it to new investors.
    THIS Colt is a MUCH smaller operation, running with a bare minimum of people, and the company was split into two companies.
    There's Colt commercial making 1911 and single action revolvers, and Colt military/police making the M-16/AR-15 rifles for the military and police.

    To top off the current Colt's problems, among the new owners is the union AND the very anti-gun State of Connecticut.
    People rage that Colt won't sell the assault rifle versions of the AR-15, and blame Colt for being "anti-gun".
    The fact is the anti-gun State of Connecticut ORDERED Colt not to sell those "awful assault weapons" to "civilians".
    When one of your owners orders you to do something, in the end you have to do what the owners TELL you to do, even if it's a bad business decision.

    Colt got out of the double action revolver business because their guns were simply to expensive to compete with cheaper brands, and in order to keep the company alive, Col's new management is forced to concentrate their production capacity on money maker guns like the single actions and the 1911 models.

    As above, Colt is selling everything they can make, and still can't quite meet the demand, but if they make the slip of spending a lot of money developing a new gun and it fails to sell well, that could put the company out of business.

    The bottom line is, Colt is operating on a thin edge and can't afford to make a single slip.
    For that reason, right now they're putting their resources into proven best sellers until they can get far enough out of the swamp that they can do other things.

    Right now, Colt is making what just might be the best 1911 pistols the company has ever made.
    While other makers are using more and more castings and MIM parts, Colt is using more and more forged steel parts.
    The company is making a good effort to stay alive by selling core models of their most famous guns, and they seem to be meeting with success.

    When people bitterly complain about Colt's business decisions, they're actually talking about a corporate Colt that no longer exists.
    THIS Colt is doing the best job it can with limited resources.
     
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    Colt's are the best kept secrets today. Everyone has moved on to Kimbers on the low end, Wilson's Baers, etc on the high end, and forgotten Colt. Some folks say Colt's are hard to find; no they aren't. Have your dealer order you one. I even have a tiny local dealer who likes Colt's and ALWAYS has stock.

    I bought a WWI repro in 2003 and it is a FANTASTIC pistol. To hold and shoot it is to realize maybe Browning got things right the first time around... before all the checkered ambi extended funneled magwell silliness.

    Now, some of the pistols that I felt in 2003 from Colt were a little rattly with poor barrel lockup. I like my 1911's tight with well-locked barrel's. So caveat emptor, I guess, but the ones I've felt lately are great. The finishing and craftsmanship are superb.

    I took a look at a SAA on a dealer's shelf the other day, and it was a fantastic revolver. If I could justify $1600 on a new Colt right now I'd do it. There are lots of copies, but only one Colt...

    IMO there are a lot of really excellent, functional weapons nowadays. In fact, my Colt SAA budget is going to buy me 2 or 3 nice weapons in the meantime... But I will say this: to hold and own one is to hold history, and I will never part with my WWI repro. It's one of those things that will be handed down, long after the other pistols have moved on.

    Re: Colt DA. I saw a new in box Python recently. I don't know if they're still being made, but I would guess so as this is at a high volume dealer.
     
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    So who owns COLT today? How is it run? Is it on the stock market?
    I understand that they are in a modern industrial park and the old factory with the Blue Dome is in a ghetto.
     
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