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Does threading a barrel add or decrease value to the gun?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by CANNONMAN, Mar 15, 2016.

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  1. yugorpk

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    It doesnt matter if the rifling is there or not. Its still considered part of the barrel for length measurements.
     
  2. theleo

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    If not done by the factory it would lessen the value of the rifle as a general rule. Now that being said you could possibly find a buyer when the time comes that just has to have the rifle your selling with a threaded barrel.

    In the OP's situation with a 7mm, if I was in the market for one and he was selling it because his wife ended up not liking it, I would be offering significantly less for it because I have no use for threaded barrels. I hate muzzle breaks and don't have a use for suppressors on hunting rifles. Really depends on the buyer as to the value of customizations.
     
  3. berettashotgun

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    If it is a STANDARD TYPICAL thread pitch - it is a plus for me personally. Thread protector cap adds to the value. Tremendously !!!
    If it was done on a kitchen table, garage floor, or shade tree lawn chair - with a Harbor Freight tools threading die - I don't think I am going to pay full amount.
    Many rifles are much easier to shoot with a little forward weight, as having a deer rifle threaded to use a win/browning boss cr just for barrel weight.
     
  4. TimSr

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    They are legal in Ohio. I've never seen anybody use one. I don't know anyone who WILL use one. I think your estimates are extremely high, and the only way I ever see their popularity increasing is if they change the FEDERAL laws, no matter how many states allow them.
     
  5. TTundra

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    10 years ago I saw none, 5 years ago I saw none. Last 2 years I've seen quite a few hunters use them and many more inquiring to my company on hunting accessories for suppressors. It is clearly growing in the hunting category.
     
  6. jim in Anchorage

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    If I saw someone threading a original pre 64 barrel I'd break his fingers.
    I honestly don't know why anyone would want a long, bulky, heavy, worthless brush snagging "can" on the end of a hunting rifle.
    Except to look "cool"
     
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    To me, any modification decreases value. Period. I also know that any modifications that I make must be for me as I wouldn't expect others to pay for my modifications.
     
  8. Elkins45

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    To summarize your response: "If I don't like or understand something then others must be ridiculed or otherwise ostracized for possibly liking or understanding it."

    You are exhibiting dangerous signs of FUDDISM. Please seek treatment immediately.
     
  9. kanook

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    Similar things were said when people started to hunt with the "modern sporting rifle" known as the AR.

    I respect that you don't understand my choice, you should respect me the same.
     
  10. Onward Allusion

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    To me, threading adds value. It adds options.

    If a new owner doesn't want the threaded accessory, remove it and put a thread protector on the barrel and call it a day.
     
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  11. yugorpk

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    "I honestly don't know why anyone would want a long, bulky, heavy, worthless brush snagging "can" on the end of a hunting rifle.
    Except to look "cool"



    Ive got fingers that have been broken. Its not the end of the world. One of these days I'll find a short action mod 70 to rebuild with a crappy stock and shot out barrel and do just that. 16 inch 308 with a brake/adapter for my Specwar. Nice handy gun . Ive got a 16 threaded barrel Mossberg I hunt with now and you can hardly tell the silencer is on it. I might not look cool ever but I feel cool after I take a shot and my ears arent ringing.
     
  12. kanook

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    The "Fact" that more firearm companies are offering threaded barrels from the factory for use of "muzzle devices" is falling on "Deaf Ears"
     
  13. jim in Anchorage

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    If anyone wants to waste hundreds of dollars on a worthless accessory for there guns, I will not ridicule them. Roll up my eyes sure but it's their gun. Just don't complain to me when that silly tube hangs up on brush and costs the shot of a lifetime.
     
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    I hunt in Alabama. I use a suppressor for squirrels but not for deer. I guarantee that 99% of hunters around where I hunt have no idea that suppressors are legal, nor do they care. Most of them are deer hunters. They know ( but don't necessarily follow) the laws concerning bag limits, supplemental feeding, seasons, etc but do not do an in depth reading of the game laws every year.

    I don't think you can do modifications to any gun and really increase it's value to the general gun buying population. There will be specific people that want what you have but probably 10x that number will not want it. After market threading may be fine in a few years as more people get into suppressors. If it becomes all the rage then we will see Savage and Ruger threading barrels on their low end guns.
     
  15. yugorpk

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    Ruger already has several lower end models that come with threaded barrels. Savage has several as well. So does Mossberg. This is my .308 Mossberg

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    Ruger in 300 BLK but they make the same rifle in .308 and .223.. Your standard 24 inch hunting rifle barrel is the same length as this gun with silencer attached. Not all of us hunt in brush. Sage brush is something different entirely.

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  16. TTundra

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    I remember when old timers we're saying that about Night Vision and then Thermal...look whats happened to that market. Same thing when the AR hit the hunting world...

    You don't have to like where the industry trends are going, but it is easy enough to acknowledge it.
     
  17. RLHIII

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    Doesn't matter

    When I buy a gun, I buy what I want or I have it modified to be what I want. Re-sale isn't the issue. If and when you do sell the gun there's a pretty good chance that someone will love it just the way you have it set up.
     
  18. yugorpk

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    When I buy a gun theres a pretty good chance something is going to get cut, chopped or modified before it ever fires a shot.
     
  19. H&Hhunter

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    There are guns that don't matter. Thread them, chop them, tacticool the pants off of them. Then there are classics. Don't mess with the classics. Go buy a modern Remchestersavage and chop/thread away. Leave the unaltered pre-64's and Model 30's and such alone. I 100% agree.
     
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    I don't think it "automatically" does anything to the price of the gun. It all depends on which gun you do it to. If you threaded the barrel on a gun that not many people would ever put a brake/flash hider/suppressor on...then it might be harder to sell. You may end up taking less money for it because it would be for a more limited market....unless you found the exact right buyer which might be tough.

    Now say you thread the barrel on a 18-20" .308 bolt action that has a "tactical" stock and a detachable box mag, picatinny rail built into the receiver, etc etc..yeah....it might not increase the price by much if at all but it might make it even easier to sell because the type of market that would buy that gun is usually the type that would use some sort of muzzle device on it. The proof is in all these newer rifles that come with threaded barrels now. They wouldn't be making them if no one wanted them threaded.
     
  21. Elkins45

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    10" barrel + 8" can = 18". How long is your barrel?
     
  22. jim in Anchorage

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    10" barrel? How many FPS are you losing with that? I'm talking a hunting gun here, not a street sweeper.
     
  23. yugorpk

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    Want to check your facts first? Velocity drop for shorter barrels is a lot less than you think. You lose about 30 fps per inch under 20 inches unless the load is developed for an SBR. You can easily load a round for 2600 fps out of an 11 inch barrel with 168 grain slugs.
     
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    I assume from your lack of a reply that your barrel is longer than 18". Be careful, you might get that thing snagged on the brush.

    How much velocity do you think is needed to kill a 200 lb whitetail from 75 yards away? I promise you my 10" barrel has enough.
     
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