Don't buy a Cooper

[CRITGIT]

Hopefully this thread will continue long enough for the price of a quality Cooper firearm to be reduced substantially. I'm considering a new.17 tackdriver and Coopers are some of the finest.
By all means boycott the guy!
In a week it'll all be over but the tantrums!

CRITGIT

 

[contender]

cooper asked to resign

the cooper firearms website response ha now changed to this. they have ased cooper to resign------just wondering now if his wife is on the board.........

In response to the recent article highlighting Dan Cooper’s personal political donations, the board of directors, shareholders and employees of Cooper Firearms of Montana, Inc would like to issue the following statement.

The employees, shareholders and board of directors of Cooper Firearms of Montana do not share the personal political views of Dan Cooper.

Although we all believe everyone has a right to vote and donate as they see fit, it has become apparent that the fallout may affect more than just Mr. Cooper. It may also affect the employees and the shareholders of Cooper Firearms.

The board of directors has asked Mr. Cooper to resign as President of Cooper Firearms of Montana, Inc.

Daily operations will continue with the competent staff currently in place in Stevensville, MT producing the finest, most accurate rifles money can buy.

Dan Cooper has spent all of his working life producing the highest quality rifles built here in the USA. He started with nothing but the American Dream and built that into firearms company anyone would be proud of. We firmly believe Dan stands by the 2nd amendment.
We wish him all of the best in his future pursuits.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

So they kicked him out. Wonder how high he'll bounce when he lands?

 

[mgregg85]

Wow, I'm no fan of the republican party by any means(the only freedom they seem to support is the second amendment) but Obama is the worst candidate(as far as RKBA is concerned) the Democrats have ever chosen.

I didn't plan on buying a cooper but now I never will. I'm still not crazy about buying smith and wesson stuff since they sold out to the clinton goon squad in 2000.

Good for the cooper board for tossing him out of the company, hopefully its more than just an act.

 

[TT]

We firmly believe Dan stands by the 2nd amendment.

Oh brother.

 

[contender]

they already lied once.........

they appeared to had lied with their first statement about the donations...........wonder if there are any more lies in this statement..........

i for one am interested to know who isleft on the board of directors but i can't find that info..........

and i don't know how to look it up to see if cooper firearms is listed in any stock markets and issues stocks..........

can you really trust what ever they say after the questionable first response out of them?

or is this just paranoia and a big miss understanding......

or

to borrow a famous movie line, "what we have here is a failure to communicate"......................

 

[22-rimfire]

He can blame USA Today. These papers really care about you.

 

[ArfinGreebly]

Correction

I wonder if USA Today will print a correction . . . ?

I mean, after all, he's no longer head of the company . . .

 

[hso]

AG,

There's a story here for them to print, but it ain't going to be a correction. Mr. Cooper just got zumboed.

 

[hksw]

Right, but according to Mr. Obama, he himself supports the 2nd amendment, too, allegedly, so since you ARE (evidently) an Obama supporter, then by this quoted statement you *could very well* mean to be saying: "we are encouraged and stand with our fellow NRA members and supporters of the Second Amendment (like Obama) and against those who oppose it."

From what I have heard from obama, this is not entirely accurate. From what I have heard from himself is that he agrees that the 2ndA as it is worded does refer to individuals (as what all pro-gunners believe). He has not said, however, that he supports it. In fact, his actions and statements are quite the opposite.

 

[MikePGS]

I see that they have asked him to step down, but depending on how much stock he owns in the company that request could be essentially worthless.
"Step down, eh? Well I actually own 60 percent of the company, so I'm voting against it".

 

[ForrestJr]

"Resign as President" does not mean the same thing as SEVER ALL TIES - which is what is required. So long as Dan Cooper remains involved with Cooper Firearms and reaps monetary benefit from the sale of it's products, 2nd Amendment supporters are not going to be satisfied.

 

[No Fear]

Getting fired because one supported the wrong candidate for president? Anyone else find that unamerican and very chilling.

 

[JWarren]

Getting fired because one supported the wrong candidate for president? Anyone else find that unamerican and very chilling.

Getting fired because of dumb choices that impact your INVESTORS by turning public opinion against your company is practically the definition of "American.'


What is "un-American" is the recent notion that actions do not have consequences.


-- John

 

[Handgunner]

What I find chilling is a rifle manufacturer selling out to a gun grabbing politician. :banghead:

 

[tmajors]

Getting fired because one supported the wrong candidate for president?

If he was just a low level employee at any other company maybe. But in this case supporting Obama publicly is a direct conflict of interest to his company and to his shareholders. His shareholders spoke and the board of directors listened.

Obama is bad for the gun business in pretty much every way...well except the marked increase in gun sales from people buying while they still can.

 

[contender]

What is "un-American" is the recent notion that actions do not have consequences.

priceless............and well said.................

 

[Horsemany]

I'm in agreement it's unAmerican to lose one's job and business because of political beliefs. They used to do things like that in Germany and Russia about 60 years ago. Look at the big picture folks. Dan Cooper will be a wealthy man with or without the extremists buying his guns. You're not all as important as you think you are.

 

[rbernie]

I'm in agreement it's unAmerican to lose one's job and business because of political beliefs.

He didn't lose his job because of his beliefs. He lost his job because he willingly pissed the well from which his company drank.

There's a world of difference.

They used to do things like that in Germany and Russia about 60 years ago.

Actually, you have it backwards. In Russia, you had ZERO accountability towards your job, and when you screwed up you'd just be assigned a new job. The free market pretty much establishes, however, that each employee is accountable to his/her employer. In fact, in my 25+ years in the workplace I've ALWAYS had to sign a Code of Conduct type of contract that stipulated that I was expected to support my company in the marketplace and refrain from behavior that would harm their reputation, standing, or competitiveness.

 

[olyeller]

How big is the company?
Im thinking that he sold his interest to his wife or kid, and will still be a part of the co.

I cant see they are that big of a company to have a real board of directors.

 

[Horsemany]

Quote:
I'm in agreement it's unAmerican to lose one's job and business because of political beliefs.

He didn't lose his job because of his beliefs. He lost his job because he willingly pissed the well from which his company drank.

There's a world of difference.

rbernie,

That's really the same thing just phrased a different way IMO. The reason he is viewed as "pissing in the well from which his company drank", is because of his political beliefs. Everyone's got a right to a public opinion but let's not forget the big picture. In 4 or 8 years we can compile a list of all the guns Obama has taken away from you. It ain't gonna happen.

 

[Gord]

You're not all as important as you think you are.

Congratulations, you fail America 101.

 

[Treo]

Dan Cooper will be a wealthy man with or without the extremists buying his guns. You're not all as important as you think you are.

it has become apparent that the fallout may affect more than just Mr. Cooper. It may also affect the employees and the shareholders of Cooper Firearms.

The board of directors has asked Mr. Cooper to resign as President of Cooper Firearms of Montana

Apparently ( at least in Mr. Cooper's world] we are.

 

[SpeedAKL]

Wow. Not sure what to think of all this. I'm HIGHLY skeptical of the logic behind any gun manufacturer donating to Barack Obama, who is the most anti-gun presidential candidate ever run by a mainstream political party. OTOH, the company has taken action to remove him....and they build such beautiful rifles! What a mess....

 

[Horsemany]

Apparently ( at least in Mr. Cooper's world] we are.

I have several friends that have shot with Dan and I know a few odd facts about him. He's done more for shooting than any other gun mfg. I've ever heard about. He invites hundreds of salesman and customers out to his ranch for a week of shooting every summer. They shoot aspirins and Dan has his personal 223 floating around with 30,000 plus rounds through it.

I'm surprised how quickly the shooting folks will zone in like vultures over something like this. I'm actually a little dissapointed in my THR brethren. I guess everyone sticks together til there's a hint of disagreement about something like politics.