Don't think I over reacted. idiot reached for my gun.

Discussion in 'Strategies, Tactics, and Training' started by Trunk Monkey, Sep 2, 2013.

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  1. taliv

    taliv Moderator Staff Member

    Oct 23, 2004
    this is usually what I do when the hugger is female. for men, i will basically stiff-arm them, by locking my left arm and putting it on their shoulder, then shake their hand.

    alternately, a pre-emptive sideways hug from the strong side (where you're facing the same direction, will put their hand on your side opposite the gun (unless they have tyrannosaurus rex arms or something)
  2. Dnaltrop

    Dnaltrop Member

    Feb 12, 2010
    Portland, Oregon
    Only had one fellow think it was funny to draw attention when I was carrying concealed.

    Second time my strong hand reflexively snapped to the holster, unfortunately with my steel cane's weighted head in my hand.

    Gun was fine, it had plenty of padding between it and the Head.

    It's oddly never happened since.
  3. YZ

    YZ member

    Nov 10, 2012
    It is common behavior to "do it again" in spite of a warning. Sometimes the warning is not taken seriously (denial). Other times, it is defiance ("you need to lighten up, and I am here to help") I am sure people understood. Women in particular know how one person's playful is another person's disgusting.
    Either way, you have probably taken care of it by now. This looks like a matter for the congregation to settle, through its officers.
  4. gamestalker

    gamestalker member

    Sep 10, 2008
    SW Arizona
    Considering it happened twice, I would be very sketchy about his intentions. You say he's not a threat, but he may be mentally unstable, and thus a threat that other's, including yourself, may not be aware of. After all, how many shootings have been carried out by individuals that wern't considered to be obvious threats. Mental illness can, and does account for bizzar and dangerous behavior, I would say he qualifies in this respect.
    Keep your distance from him, and be aware of his proximity to you at all times. In my opinion, I would not let him approach you at all. And when entering the church I would not stop to shake his hand, as that seems to be his method of opportunity, as it allows him to secure your hand, while he grabs with the other.
    And considering the laws and how they may apply to this type of behavior, I would clearly explain to him that if he ever tries to touch your weapon again, that he may end up in hand cuffs next time. Seriously, make your self clear, in that, you will not let it go if it happens again..

  5. kyew

    kyew Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    Just south of Nowhere, SC
    See, this is why I don't go to church.

    There are other people there!
  6. armsmaster270

    armsmaster270 Member

    Oct 17, 2009
    He is a threat even if he is a little off. Your purpose is to protect the flock, your biggest asset is no one knowing that you are armed. He is taking the anonymity that you have making you the first target if someone happens to want to do damage to the flock..
  7. tommy.duncan

    tommy.duncan Member

    Aug 30, 2013
    Northern Virginia
    My Dad used to tell me, "the gates are down, the bells are ringing, but the train ain't coming". You handled yourself well. I would have had to explain the broken nose to my pastor.
  8. Tirod

    Tirod Member

    May 24, 2008
    SW MO
    Do churches have security teams? If you don't know your pastor/minister carries, it's being done well.

    This church has a list, and you've been outed?

    Good behavior on your part, nice letter, lack of followup is to leave. Start packing your mental baggage, a demonstration you mean what you say and are willing to back it up by ensuring no contact ever happens again will have some impact.

    Others might ask about it, your discretion how to answer. If at all. I no longer go to church. I don't answer questions about it - because the real reason is that church goers have done nothing to protect my right to have a day of worship. Retail stores are open 7 days a week, and I get to wait on former church members who shop at my store on Sunday. So much for principles.

    Time to move. You won't ever find the perfect church, but you can at least have a choice as to which foibles and idiocy you have to put up with.
  9. another pake

    another pake Member

    Apr 24, 2013
    Min ne sota, ya
    My paster friend is fond of saying, from the pulpit,

    "If anyone here ever finds the perfect church, leave right away.
    YOU'LL wreck it if you don't."
  10. Kleanbore

    Kleanbore Moderator Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2008
    This one has run out of steam.
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