Don't touch it unless i say so!

[Bear Gulch]

I can see where the miss communication happened. One more reason that I have a clearing barrel outside my front door. Redundant measures insure safety.

 

[DelayedReaction]

Your firearm, your responsibility. The clerk shouldn't have reached into the bag, but you should have cleared it after you parked your car.

 

[Fred Fuller]

WA,

One more example of Murphy riding shotgun. Glad it was no worse, sorry you got an embarassing lesson out of it.

I always tell my wife (easily distracted) that, when you are driving, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING to do is _drive_. Not talk, or look at horses or houses, drive.

Same thing with guns. We MUST stay focused on our primary responsibility when carrying/handling/in any way dealing with guns. It is imperative, simply because ol' Murph is always waiting in the wings. There is no substitute for full attention to what we are doing when guns are involved.

kpk/nc (who has had a shortcoming or two in that department also)

 

[BlkHawk73]

Sorry but being "was a little involved" wouldn't do you a darn bit of good when talking to a police officer, jury or judge. You, and youalone are responsible for the condition of your guns in your possession. @ blocks or not, you wilingly and knowingly broke state law and further negligance could've put you in REAL hot water. No excuses when it comes to safety! Don't try to down-play your part and put al blame on the other guy. Especially in a gun shop, one should expect a gun to be handled (watch people at gun shows). :banghead:

 

[sturmruger]

Ya WI sucks! Too bad we have so many good gun shops!!

 

[entropy]

I sure hope it wasn't the shop I work at. (they have mentioned several guns brought in loaded lately. I hope yours wasn't one of them.)
Bear Gulch has a good idea, although we have a lot of LE in here, (most of the gunshop guys are. I'm ex-military.) I'm not sure they'd use it. Talk to sturmruger about the proper procedure for crossing the river and CCW, he lives here, but works in MN, where he has a permit.
The gunshop guys error was one of rudeness, but understandable in the situation, with your omission of any further communication [ is your trade in here? Yes.] It is harder to proceed futher with trading if one cannot see the trade. You made a mistake in not adding something to the effect of ," and we'll look at it in a minute. Can I see that [drool ] Kimber?"
At least you realize your mistake in not clearing the pistol before getting inside. That was the starting point for the whole episode. Glad his training once he had it in hand was working, and no tragedy happened.

 

[walking arsenal]

entropy

you and me both.

Like i said, i screwed up a lot more more than the shop guy did and the whole thing could have been avoided if id had my head were it belonged instead of off in space.

but again i posted the story so othes could learn from it, m sure there are other people on the board who have made similar mistakes but havent come forward about it, cant say i blame them, it was a highly embarassing mistake from a typically careful gun owner.

whats your shop BTW, maybe ill swing in.

 

[twency]

I'd get pretty honked if ANYONE when through my range bag. period. My bag is my bag. If I want you to have something in the bag, I'll provide it.

Don't mess with my range bag.

Then don't:
•plunk it down on the counter in front of the clerk after indicating that you want to do a trade-in
•stop paying attention to it
•and when asked "is your trade-in in here?", nod your head, say yes, and continue to ignore the bag, which is no longer in your possession.

As Walking Arsenal indicated, he did some less-than-thoughtful things. Obviously he and the clerk had different interpretations of his actions. Generally speaking, where the handling of firearms are involved, ambiguity is a bad thing. Clerk woulda been well-advised to have explicitly asked "may I look at it?", but he obviously though that Walking Arsenal intended for him to look at it, since WA had relinquished control of the bag, and had indicated he had a trade-in in the bag.

If you don't wan't someone pawing through your range bag, don't let it out of your control/observation.

-twency
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No one is paying attention until you make a mistake.

 

[medmo]

Everybody made mistakes but.... in the end, safe gun handling practices saved the day. Hooray! to the guy behind the counter for assuming "all guns are loaded all the time" and cleared/empty the chamber before proceeding. If you see an unsafe situation transpiring or the possibility of something happening... call it out even if it has to be at the top of your lungs. Don't be concerned with being embarrassed or hurting someone's feelings.

1st most important thing learned: Safe gun handling practices work

2nd most important thing learned: You can't control your loaded gun when it isn't under your control.

Just my thoughts....