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Double barrel or Pump

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by BOOM-BOOM, Jan 15, 2010.

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  1. BOOM-BOOM

    BOOM-BOOM Member

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    Is one better then the other for home defence?
    Stage coach shotgun or any model mutipule pump Riot gun

    Yes I only have 2 shots with a double barrel. but I'm in my home I don't think its neccessary to have to fire 7 or 8 shots from a shotgun..

    Opinions.....
     
  2. hawk shooter

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    sxs vs pump

    But what if you need to fire three -or - four?
     
  3. oneounceload

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    Then you watch the Clint Smith video to see how to quickly reload a double
     
  4. BOOM-BOOM

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    Hummm I don't know... maybe reload......

    Or draw my 357 mag and use it.
     
  5. Al LaVodka

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    I personally hope you stick to the double-barrel, Quick-Draw, but skip questions you don't really want an answer to in the future.

    I'm just sayin'...

    Al
     
  6. BOOM-BOOM

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    personally hope you stick to the double-barrel, Quick-Draw, but skip questions you don't really want an answer to in the future.


    What question am I asking that I don't want an answer for????
    I am trying to to ask for opinion on using a side by side or a pump for home SD
     
  7. Gunfighter123

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    Before I ansewer your question , let me ask ----- will you keep the SG loaded all the time or load it after you hear a "bump in the night " ??
     
  8. BOOM-BOOM

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    I keep all my guns loaded.. Why.
     
  9. Gunfighter123

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    I have many SGs ----- my TTN double is a "rabbit ear " hammer gun , fine to leave loaded and just swipe both hammers back and Boom-Boom {lol}

    My hammerless double I do not leave loaded --- I don't like to have a "cocked & locked " gun laying around with only a slideing/crossbolt safety to keep it from dischargeing.

    My Saiga S-12 semi-auto , I just leave a loaded mag near in --- insert mag , pull back bolt and Boom-Boom.

    My Mossberg 500 pump is my " go to " SG ----- load the mag tube full , just rack it and pull ---- BOOM !!!
     
  10. Gunfighter123

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    Boom ---- I will add , that 2 shots from a shotgun will "normally " be enough , I have must more trust in my 8 shot Mossberg pump or 10 rd. Saiga S-12.
     
  11. BOOM-BOOM

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    Ok, so which one of your shotguns would you keep if you only had one?
     
  12. Gunfighter123

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    Hard choice ---- for around the house -- Moss. 500
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  13. walker944

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    I'd prefer to have a few additional rounds already sitting in the tube than to have to attempt a reload of a two barrel. I'd rather not have to take my eyes off the 'target' to look down and reload. Just my $.02...
     
  14. chevyforlife21

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    id take a mossberg pump
     
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  15. zhyla

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    I don't see what advantage a SxS has over a pump in a defensive situation. Of course, you knew that because you seem to know something about shotguns and I'm pretty damn sure *nobody* has *ever* recommended a SxS as superior to a pump for HD. But if you've got a SxS and you can run it good, just use that.

    Wait... did you press 1 for english first?
     
  16. BullfrogKen

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    No?

    I have. On many occasions.


    It depends on the user, and his/her circumstances.


    It takes me much less time to train someone to be proficient with a double barrel than with a repeating arm. And they're shorter, making them easier to manuever with. They're much easier to transition to a slug.


    Lots of advantages in a double barrel. Capacity is not the end all, be all.
     
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    I utilize a Mosberg 500 Persuader, yeah 8 shots a lot, but better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. Slugs and buckshot, on the stock
     
  18. Milkmaster

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    Either one works. The best HD shotgun is the one you practiced with enough to run it with your eyes closed. Running an unfamiliar gun at night under stress would not be an ideal situation regardless of how many shots you have. Choose a shotgun that YOU handle easily and practice with often. The bad guy won't know which kind of shotgun the buck pellets in his flesh came from if you do your part right. Good Luck!
     
  19. Sav .250

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    "opinions".............. a short barreled double. As for the 7-8 shots . I get your drift but if your defending your home/family. I`m thinking, you can always patch the walls or what ever but in that moment,damage control is the least of your worries.
    As home invasions seem to include more than one person, 7-8 rounds fired is a real possibility. Just saying.
    A double seems to be less likely to mal-function, where as the pump "could" possibly jam, and/or not eject a shell (for several reasons.)IMO.
     
  20. Al LaVodka

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    Interesting opinion of the reliability of a double vs. a pump, but not the reality in my experience.
    Al
     
  21. Grunt

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    I think what he means is that it's pretty apparent that you have already settled on a side by side rather than a pump and are now trying to get justification from others here on this board in the form of their approval. You made a choice that you feel will work for you and more power to you. However myself and a lot of others here would not choose one for defensive use. For example, I personally believe that the double barrel shotgun's role as a fighting gun was made obsolete in 1897 and while I own a Rossi coach gun for SASS shooting, it's a game gun only and will never see a day as a defensive gun in my house. That's what the role my Remingtons and Mossbergs fill. If it works for you, great but it's not something that would work for me.
     
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    If you’re buying and have less than $500.00 I’d tell you to stick with the pump.

    I don’t believe using a double is a handicap, remember a pump is only a single shot till you cycle the action and I’d rather have two shots than one.
     
  23. Fred Fuller

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    Is a pump better than a SxS? Not really, but IMHO a LOT more depends on the shooter than the shotgun.

    Personally, with the numbers of thugs involved in home invasions these days (increasingly, two or more), I'd rather have a pumpgun. But then, I'm one of those Bocephus-lyric "ol boys raised on shotguns" and literally grew up shooting a pumpgun. If you're better/more confident with a SxS, use one and be prepared to reload if you have to.

    Harden your home to make it a less inviting and less vulnerable target, first and foremost. And no matter what shotgun you choose- train with it, practice with it, set up plans for home defense and practice executing those plans. See the NRA's Personal Protection In The Home class for guidelines- find out if it's being taught near you at http://www.nrainstructors.org/CourseCatalog.aspx . Or see the DVD at http://materials.nrahq.org/go/product.aspx?productid=ES 26840 .

    hth,

    lpl
     
  24. mrjohnston

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    Pump The quick follow up of a SxS is lost in reload time. I'd rather have a consistent cadence of fire for 7 rounds, and soon I'll have a 6 round side saddle and 6 on the buttstock. I think 19 rounds will handle most any engagement I find myself in. BTW this is my truck/HD/round the house gun.
     
  25. MachIVshooter

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    If you've ever had a pump jam, this is a very valid argument in favor of the SxS. I've had 870's and 500's jam, and clearing them often involves breaking them down. That's not an option in a fight for your life.

    No mechanical device is 100% reliable, and the hammers of a double could fail. But there is really no type of failure short of parts breakage that would render a double completely useless. Even if one shell got stuck in the chamber, you still have the other chamber.

    I personally use an 11-87 Police for HD, and mine has proven 100% relaible, except for cheap Winchester value pack shells (not enough oomph to cycle the gun). But it's not my only HD gun, either. There is an AR-10, a Marlin camp-45, A Savage-Fox 20 ga. and three handguns in the room to back it up.

    The more I had to depend on a weapon, the simpler I'd want it to be. I'd take a SxS over a pump as my only HD gun.
     
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