barnbwt
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I propose we try to draw up a list of specific protections we can all agree are granted to us by virtue of the 2nd Amendment. Just like the Bill of Rights, this would not be a list defining the extent of our freedoms, but an explicit summary of our most obvious/applicable protections. We're not the SCOTUS, but we (well most of us here) are American citizens, so we damn well have the right to interpret our own Constitution. And if we can find common ground with eachother, we damn well carry some weight in Washington. To that end I think it would be great to make a A Document that outlines our basic protectons.
I recommend we be as broad (but not vague) as possible, and terse. A short list of single sentences will be easier for our reps to read.
For instance, I believe the 2nd Amendment grants us The right to use firearms for any purpose (that does not infringe on the Constitutionally protected rights of others) and that we have The right to acquire and possess any firearm deemed proper for that purpose. Very broad (I didn't say "I think it's legal for me to own an EBR for hunting deer"), but it still conveys meaning (it's not "I have the right to own what I want"). I tried to write it to be more "universal" to all types of gunowners, so there'd be less controversy over specifics.
We'll make a list of a couple dozen "clauses" suggested, and only include those with no controversy. That will give others and our reps a good, concise description of how gunowners in general understand and exercise our right to bear arms.
What are your thoughts on this project, my/others' contributions, and what do you think should be added?
TCB
PS: Yes, it's easy to simply shout "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" and cross your arms; discussion over--but that is an extremely disrespectful (petulant, honestly) way to debate with somoeone who doesn't already agree with you. Let's aim for a meaningful, compelling representation of our core beliefs
I recommend we be as broad (but not vague) as possible, and terse. A short list of single sentences will be easier for our reps to read.
For instance, I believe the 2nd Amendment grants us The right to use firearms for any purpose (that does not infringe on the Constitutionally protected rights of others) and that we have The right to acquire and possess any firearm deemed proper for that purpose. Very broad (I didn't say "I think it's legal for me to own an EBR for hunting deer"), but it still conveys meaning (it's not "I have the right to own what I want"). I tried to write it to be more "universal" to all types of gunowners, so there'd be less controversy over specifics.
We'll make a list of a couple dozen "clauses" suggested, and only include those with no controversy. That will give others and our reps a good, concise description of how gunowners in general understand and exercise our right to bear arms.
What are your thoughts on this project, my/others' contributions, and what do you think should be added?
TCB
PS: Yes, it's easy to simply shout "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" and cross your arms; discussion over--but that is an extremely disrespectful (petulant, honestly) way to debate with somoeone who doesn't already agree with you. Let's aim for a meaningful, compelling representation of our core beliefs
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