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Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Venom007, Jul 14, 2018 at 2:43 AM.

  1. Venom007

    Venom007 Member

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    how are the replica Colts dragoon pistols? I want to add one to my collection. thanks.
     
  2. shunka

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    If you are looking at a new one, the Uberti's are very well made.

    Personally I preferr the 3rd Model Dragoon for the improvements that were made.

    If you are looking at used guns, watch out. Some ASM's were great ( my two are good ) and some had quality issues.
    One fellow had an old ASM Walker cylinder blow a chamber. There was no other damage and he replaced it with a new made cylinder with minor fitting and no further problems.

    hope this helps
    shunka
     
  3. Venom007

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    thanks am wanting Ubertis
     
  4. 72coupe

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    I like mine but it shot 12 inches high and 4 inches right when it was new. I made a taller front sight and installed it now it shoots to point of aim. They seem to have less issues with fragmented caps than the smaller guns.
     
  5. Navy Six 2

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    I bought a new pair of Uberti 2nd Models about three years ago. I liked the square back trigger guards and "regular style" mainspring, bolt head and cylinder notches. Very nicely made and finished and FWIW, my experiences shooting 30-35 grs 2F Goex , Remington #10 caps with a round ball were:
    * had cap jams slightly more often than the smaller guns. This surprised me I had installed aftermarket nipples. I also cleaned up the hammer faces.
    * both guns dropped the loading levers about 50% of the time with above loads. I eventually solved this.
    * both guns shot high--4 in.-- and left--3 in--but were accurate. On a whim I ordered a pair of R&D cylinders from Taylors. They dropped right in and with this 45 Colt load (35 grs 2F Goex and 160 gr EPP-UG) they both shoot very close to point of aim at 15 yds with 2 in. accuracy.
    The above issues are pretty much run of the mill for most percussion revolvers. Overall, I am happy with both guns and they are certainly a bit out of the ordinary.
     
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  6. expat_alaska

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    I like the squareback TG very much for traditional purposes/looks, and I like it better than the round TG. I never had a problem with the SB TG on a Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 Mag like some have professed.

    There is an old story about trying to please a certain Col. Talcott who had an obsession with the SB TG, and as Colt always was looking for a market/government contract for his guns, he kept the squareback TG on the 1851 Navy and the 1848 Dragoon until Talcott was courts-martialed for some offense. Shortly afterward, Colt went with the round trigger guards.

    The Second Model Dragoon has the rectangular bolt stop slots on the cylinder and mainspring like the Third Model. I guess it is a matter of aesthetics. I don't have the money to delve into Dragoon replicas, but I appreciate any pics you folks want to post.

    I wish Colt had made an 1851 Navy .36 Dragoon with the part octagon/part round barrel and a smooth cylinder. Here is my Pietta fantasy 1851 .36 Dragoon based upon a 2014 [CM] 1851 Navy pistol:

    Pietta_1851_Navy_Dragoon.jpg

    I think the pic could pass for a Second Model Dragoon replica if one did not know better.

    I don't recall Pietta ever producing a Dragoon .44 of any type, only Uberti.

    I apologize for intruding in the conversation.

    Jim
     
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  7. 72coupe

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    I don't like the square trigger guard on the 2nd model Dragoon. It bangs my knuckle.
     
  8. rodwha

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    2nd model for me as well because of the trigger guard. Ended up with a ROA instead so there’s no complaining!
     
  9. bannockburn

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    Jim

    Have never been a fan of squareback trigger guards but do love the look of a part octagon/part round barrel on any BP revolver.
     
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