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Dragoon Wedge Problem

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by edggy, Jun 14, 2006.

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  1. edggy

    edggy Member

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    I took the wedge out to clean my new Dragoon revolver. Now for the life
    of me I cannot get it back in. The slot will just not line up. Take from me
    I have spent hours trying. Using a plastic mallet not wanted to scratch my new revolver. Its there a trick or something I dont know about. I dont understand how this people were able to get this thing in to begin with. Iam very close to sending this revolver back to midway. The cylinder and barrel go back easy but the slot will not match up enought to let the wedge go in. Thank You
     
  2. Smokin_Gun

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    With hammer at the half cock, cylinder on, hold upright and install barrel assy. aligning the two locating pins. If it goes on all the way and still has a gap at the frame where to two locating pins are. point it towards the carpet
    and give it a couple good taps. See if wedge fits...if not try that again a lil harder. Intall wedge then install wedge screw...
    Always works for me with some revs that have a tight fit. Hope that works for you.
     
  3. pohill

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    My Walker and 1862 Pocket Police are the same way. The wedge looks like it's going in at an angle. Give it a little mallet tap downward (towards the grip), then inward (into the slot, but not too far). With the 1862 I have to apply pressure upward on the barrel to line it all up. The advantage of this tightness is a good wedge fit. Remember - it came out, so it will go in.
    If you call anyone, call Taylors if it's an Uberti, or Traditions if it's a Pietta. They have techs that are pretty helpful. I think it's better to fix a gun yourself than to send it back (unless it's a major problem). You'll get a new gun with new problems.
     
  4. Smokin_Gun

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    Good point Pohill... I have a couple that do that, and you're right it's not a bad thing at all...a good tight fit. I can't remember but does the Paterson do that? I know that Rev was a good tight fit. Shoots ticks off a squirrel's tail at 50 yards...HeHe!
     
  5. pohill

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    I just shoot the Paterson without the barrel - it's easier. Actually, the Paterson has a good wedge fit - pops in and out with thumb pressure. Going through the line-up, looks like the Paterson's on deck.
     
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    You going out tomorrow, I may just to try out the rear sight adjustment and some 777 ffg on the 1851 Navy Uberti.
    Ms. Paterson will be pleased i'm sure...
     
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    My recent Uberti 3rd Model Dragoon is tightly fitted there. I would just make sure that the hammer is at half cock, barrel is all the way on, and use a brass or nylon faced hammer to tap the wedge in. If it gets a little crosswise and won't self-align, tap it back out with something non-marring (even a small dowel). I have had mine apart about three times now and it has gotten a bit easier from just that little bit of use. Better a bit tight than too loose...
     
  8. edggy

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    I really appreciate the info. Iam really at the end of my rope with
    this revolver . What worries me even if I get back in. This is the one item that
    has to be remove everytime the revolver is used And to have this kind of a
    troublesome situation again and again makes me want to return it for a replacement. My walker revolver is perfect and so is my 2nd model Dragoon.
    But this Whitneyville Dragoon is another story.All of the revolvers are Uberti's. Thank You everybody (GreatHelp) Great forum.
     
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    Pohill
    I never thought about shooting any of these powder guns without a barrel on it. That's gotta be trippy.
     
  10. pohill

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    Shooting without a barrel is alot easier - it's cleaner (no barrel to clean), no wedge to deal with, makes a louder noise, brighter flame, more kick, and since I can't hit anything anyways, just as accurate.
    Pardon the typing mistakes - I'm typing with my nose. This straightjacket is confining.
     
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    hehehe That's funny!
     
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    Wasn't that the concept of the Pepper Box? Rotating cylinder barrels?

    Good one Pohill!
     
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    ever drop a cylinder in the dirt?
     
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    Didn't you post about this wedge problem before, including pictures? If I remember that correctly the barrel and cylinder arbor are not just out of alignment, but WAY out of alignment.

    I want to know how bad this is before I give advice.
     
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    Thank You anyway) But I send this nightmare of a revolver back for a replacement. If it wasn't for the fact that its not only brand new. Its also a
    very expensive Revolver (Whitneyville 1848 Dragoon) I would have taken a
    hammering to that wedge like you wouldn't believe.But run the risk of damaging the revolver. I think it would be in my best interest to send it back
    for a replacement.
     
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    If you haven't sent it back yet, get a Rawhide, teflon, or rubber mallet and smack that wedge in there. Tight is good on a new one...but you gotta be the judge of it it's yours. All I can tell you is that that's how they assemble them at Uberti, or Pietta. Some are tighter than others. Best of luck which ever way you decide...but I'd smack mine...
     
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