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Drink Tea while you shoot?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Flashpoint, Jan 10, 2004.

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  1. Flashpoint

    Flashpoint Member

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    I had noticed that when I was sitting around dry-firing I tend to be more comfortable holding my pistolas with a Teacup hold rather than the more traditional one I was shown. So I thought I wonder how this would translate into actual shooting, and darn if it didn't increase my accuracy. Are there any on else that prefers to shoot this way or am I the freak?
     
  2. P95Carry

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    So far - I am struggling to get a clear mental pic of this!!:p

    Any chance of a photo .. it would help!
     
  3. Badger Arms

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    It helps if you chop your pinky finger completely off! Seriously, when shooting slow-fire legs, I often use only my middle finger and thumb to grasp the pistol grip on a RIFLE and then my trigger finger is free. With less fingers, there is less to disturb the rifle. With a pistol, it's a different story. It's a bad habit to get into, in my opinion, to have any less than all of your fingers engaged. It might be perfectly fine for you, though. Have you considered taping your pinky and ring finger together? Might sound absurd, but I did that once and it seemed to improve my slow-fire scores.
     
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    Your kidding right?
     
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    I'm with Chris on this, I don't see what you mean. I hold a coffee cup with both hands right now (it's currently about 11 deg outside), and I might have had tea out of a cup once in my life, but I don't remember it. :)

    The hold I think you're describing doesn't sound very secure to me.


    Badger Arms --
    I guess you did do it only once! You could only do it twice at most. :D
    (Yes, I know what you mean, but it sounded funny.)
     
  6. stans

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    This could quickly degenerate into a "real men don't..." thread.:neener:
     
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    When I think of a 'teacup hold' anything, I envision one holding one's pinky finger upright... in a manner many straight guys not 100% secure with themselves might not be too eager to do in front of other guys once said other guys pointed it out...

    :p
     
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    Maybe Flashpoint means holding with the weak hand under the shooting hand and gun 'cupping' them instead of the regular hand over fingers in the front.
     
  9. horge

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    That's what I understood as well.
    Maybe Flash will chime in again and clarify.
     
  10. Badger Arms

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    I just assumed he meant with the little pinkey sticking up in the air in that froofy way. I've taped up my fingers to keep them from throwing the gun off.
     
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    Flashpoint ... come on dude .. we need some clarification still ...... :p
     
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    I bet he eats quiche too.
     
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    I hope that's what he meant. That's actually not a bad way to hold a gun, especially if you're accustomed to the single-handed bullseye method. I had the devil's own time trying to hang onto a gun with both hands during my C.C.W. course: it just felt completely weird to try to use both hands. Still does.
     
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    Real men don't use teabags...

    :neener: :p :D
     
  15. Flashpoint

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    Sorry guys didn't mean to leave ya hangin'.

    Yep that's it, I made you some visual examples to help clarify the subject.
    I just thought that that is what you call that kind of grip, I don't know where I picked that up from. Is there an actual name for the below pictured gip?

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    I'll have to admit you guys had me a little confused with the pinky thing, especially the chop it off comment, and no I've never ate quiche. Isn't that like a weird cake?

    One thing that I failed to mention, doing this way really made me take notice in the difference in recoil of my Steyr M40 and my Sig p239 9mm(pictured above) The M40 seemed real mild while it made the 9mm feel more snappy, but not painful, just quick. Maybe it's just the difference in the two types of guns.
     
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    That is Quiche.

    And why exactly do you call it a "teacup" hold?
     
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    I wouldn't exactly call that a "tea cup" hold. That looks more like a compromise between a two hand hold placing both hands parallel to the bore and the two hand hold in which the palm of the off hand is supporting the shooting hand. If this hold works well for you, then use it!!!!
     
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    I eat quiche. But then I'm a straight guy who is 100% secure. What's your point? :p
     
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    Much clearer now Flashpoint..... but I really would drop the ''tea cup'' aspect!!:p

    I would call this ''weak hand cupping'' .. and have tried it with small frames ..... works for some, but despite quite large hands my grip is as ever .... when 2 handed ..... weak wrapped over strong.
     
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    But the loose leaves are such a pain!
     
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    I was told that was the cup and saucer hold,used mainly by double action revolver users.

    Oh yea:
    Real men don't drink tea,it's coffee,cowboy style.
    4 parts water,2 parts coffee boiled for ten minutes and strained thru your hat.:neener:
     
  22. Badger Arms

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    That's how I hold my pistol. Nothing wrong with it. One-Handed I'm a little better, but combat stances are best done with two hands.
     
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    My point?:scrutiny:
    I bet you have more pairs of shoes than I do...





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    Okay... that line of jokes has gone too far. I'm stopping now.

    I've never heard of that grip as a Tea Cup grip.
     
  24. Flashpoint

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    I don't know why, it seams like I heard it called that once. I wouldn't make something like that up, I usually make other stuff up:evil:.

    It looks less like a compromise with the M40, it has a bit larger frame so I hold it a bit different.

    The only thing I can think of is because the weak hand holds the strong kinda like like a teacup, I guess.
     
  25. riverdog

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    Two pair of running shoes, three pair of hiking boots, two pair of work boots and one pair of wing tips that I haven't worn in years. Your turn ;)
     
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