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Dual handguns...

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by natedog, Oct 16, 2003.

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  1. natedog

    natedog Member

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    Has anyone here tried going "John Woo" at the shooting range? You know what I'm talking about: shooting two handguns one in each hand simultaneously? Any accuracy? Or just a way to make a lot of noise and empty brass?
     
  2. jsalcedo

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    I've done it at a private range and anything past 7 yards the two guns thing for me was just hollywood/hong kong spray and pray.

    Maybe with more practice....
     
  3. Frohickey

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    yeah, what jsalcedo said.

    Aside from the initial period when you throw more lead, but not as accurately, reloads take forever. I'd much rather just have one gun, shoot that empty, then move to use the other gun.
     
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    A couple of guys were doing that with P7's last year. Talk about brass in the air..................
    Tony
     
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    In all fairness, John Woo would have guns akimbo, but would usually only aim/fire one at a time.

    What's really cheesy is akimbo MAC-10s, firing full auto.
     
  6. natedog

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    I was thiniking about a way this might be somewhat useful...First learn to shoot left handed. Then have two guns and raise and fire, concentrate on sights, and fire with your left hand. Then raise the left and concentrate on sights, fire, etc. I might try it some time....
     
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    I tried this once. But I was shooting one at a time. I had 2 snubbies. Other than control issues there was also the problem of trying to keep track of how many shots I've fired.
     
  8. Frohickey

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    I could see if you have tracers for each gun.
     
  9. C.R.Sam

    C.R.Sam Moderator Emeritus

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    Being either eyed and neither handed...
    Have found that I can shoot em both and score pretty well.
    Left gun sighted with left eye, right one with right eye.
    Works.

    Sam
     
  10. El Tejon

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    Works best for me with body index. YMMV.

    It's really silly, but sometimes the Inner Gun Nut takes over.:D
     
  11. Justin

    Justin Moderator Emeritus

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    Want to learn to shoot two at once?

    Learn to shoot with your weak hand as well as your strong hand.
    Then start *slowly* doing drills shooting two at once.

    takes time and lots of ammo to learn, at least according to Ed McGivern's book.

    (The few times I've done it, I was just goofing around.)
     
  12. kalibear45

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    I would try it if I had four eyes so I can't squint on two :neener:
     
  13. Shane

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    No! When I try to do two things at once, I make MISTAKES. And we all know that a mistake with a firearm can be serious. For safety reasons, I only shoot one gun at a time. Always have, always will. Just IMO, YMMV.
     
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    I'd prefer the "Spare Gun Reload" over firing akimbo. I've always been a fan of hitting what I was shooting at and 2 hands on a gun work much better than 1 even as I've been practicing one handed and off-handed shooting.
     
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    Maybe there is someone who has really mastered this but I think the time you spent trying to master it could be better spent mastering a single gun.

    For one, how do you do a tap-rack-bang with 2 hand guns?

    How do you do a tactical reload? How do you reholster? How do you open doors or practice retention with 2 handguns?

    If you shoot 75% as well single handed, and only 50% as well weak handed, you are seriously handicapping yourself by shooting a gun in your weak hand and an unsupported gun in your strong hand.

    I think its pretty retarded. I understand the visiual appeal on movies but it still drives me crazy - I have no more desire to shoot two handed than I do to go buy the guns I see in movies.


    When you are using one gun properly, your sight picture and they gun are "fused" and you are a little human handgun turret.

    It takes time to reacquire a sight picture on another gun in another hand, focus, then do the whole OODA process and shoot, then switch back - you are inserting many unnecessary processing cycles for your brain to deal with when what you really need to do is come up with LESS for your brain to deal with - so you can loop faster and win the fight.

    No offense to those who have tried it - I have tried it - I already thought it would be difficult and useless and I was shown to be right.
     
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    Not Tactical.

    Tis a gimmick, demo, stunt or whatever thing.

    Sam
     
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    2 FEG Hipowers. 2 13 shot magazines. 26 peices spent brass. 14 holes in target.

    :scrutiny:

    I'd agree it can be done.. but mostly its just too tempting to go babababababababababang.
     
  18. LoveMy45

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    Drives me crazy

    It's even sillier than the horizontal grip that you see gangsters use in so many movies. :rolleyes:

    Did anybody see Mel Gibson (I don't remember the name of the movie) shooting two-handed with the handguns at about shoulder width and height? That's a good way to run out of ammo very quickly without doing anything useful against a threat. Not only that, but this significantly increases the risk of endangering innocent bystanders.

    Hollywood! :banghead:
     
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    I have done it just for laughs. I can't shoot for crap unsighted to begin with. I can't see the sights on both guns at once. I also hate to shoot and not hit anything, so I ended up holding two guns and shooting one at a time.
    I agree that it has no practical value for mere mortals. I suppose if you dedicated a few thousand hours to practicing it, it might be better than my experience. But, I think that would be time better spent shooting faster and more accurately with one gun.
     
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    Actually, it's posible to do, but you have to leap from behind cover and fire both guns rapid fire while in the air, preferably all in slow motion.

    If you do it right, you should land on your side and slide some distance with both guns at slide lock.

    At this point your enemies will either A) realize they are dealing with a complete idiot and leave you to go pick on somebody of equal mental capacity or B) throw down their own weapons to fight you "mano to mano".

    :rolleyes:
     
  21. Mushinto

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    I have done it. It's always good to practice something different once in a while. It has negative tactical value. Just like fighting with two sticks, or two knives or two swords -- save it for the movies. In just about every practical situation you can imagine, you will need a free hand for something.
    ML
     
  22. C.R.Sam

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    Now that has some value.
    Think....pinned down under your car or such and tryin to shoot.
    Gun sideways works well for that application.
    Now think again...will your gun feed when doin that ?
    Lot of shotguns won't.
    Some autoloader handguns won't.
    Some will work with one side down but not 'tuther side down.
    And very few will work downside up.

    Sam
     
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    I've shot both my G19s at once. Fun to try once, but that's about it. Right now I'm waiting for the next time I visit my brother. We both have FA Vector Uzi carbines. Both of those at once should be fun. :evil:
     
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    Did it last Labor Day at Mom's house with 2 1911s. Shot double from the hip into a full sheet of plywood. Did a tac reload (mags inverted and sticking out of front pockets, saw that in a movie somewhere). Fired 2 more mags shoulder height.

    Unfortunatly I had watched Last Man Standing tha day before and my stepfather had a gangster type hat on the kitchen table. Got me to thinking

    Now I know if I'm ever attacked by a 4'x6' man I'll win. Hopefully nobody will be within 10 feet of him
     
  25. 4v50 Gary

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    Only close range at full size target. BTW, I use a left handed Randall for the left hand when I do this. :)
     
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