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Dude secures guns in safe, and they steal his safe!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by harmonic, Mar 23, 2010.

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  1. harmonic

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    A Tulsa man returns home from a fishing trip to find numerous guns and large amount of cash missing.

    The homeowner returned to his home on the 5100 block of East 27th Place to find his 500 pound safe missing.

    Inside the safe were 22 pistols, rifles and shotguns along with $200,000 in cash.

    The money, which belonged to a close friend, was partly inherited and was to provide for the families retirement years.

    The burglary took place while the homeowner was away on an out-of-state fishing trip between March 3 and March 12th.

    Detectives on the case are hoping that a citizen will call Crime Stoppers at 596-COPS with any information that they have in reference to this burglary.

    http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0310/718670.html
     
  2. harmonic

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    Guaranteed was someone homeowner knows. Plus, if one's safe isn't properly secured, it just becomes a big gun case.
     
  3. rcmodel

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    Thats why you bolt safes down & weld the nuts on!

    I have a dealer/collector friend who not only had a 1,500 pound safe full of single digit serial number Ruger #1 rifles stolen.
    It also contained all the bolts out of about a dozen Kimber of Oregon rifles with single digit serial numbers & exhibition grade stocks.
    Kimber is long out of business, and replacement bolts are not to be had.

    That was 10 years ago, and still nothing has ever been recovered.

    rc
     
  4. 19-3Ben

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    Agreed.


    That absolutely sucks though. $200k is a LOT to have sitting around in a safe at home. I'd have that in a safety deposit box in a bank if I had that much.
     
  5. waldonbuddy

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    Wasn't aware of that. The bank is private property, as is the box. Under what authority can the govt do that? What "certain circumstances" allow this?
     
  7. EmGeeGeorge

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    Like a criminal indictment, a search warrant, a seizure warrant... Not very likely unless you or yours are doing something that is illegal.
    Also in certain situations the government can kill you with a hellfire from a drone.... Like if you're an Al Qaida member in Pakistan... Probably just as likely as them opening a legally leased safe-deposit...
     
  8. JohnBT

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    So they can't take stuff if it's in your home or buried in the yard? :confused:
     
  9. TexasRifleman

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    With probable cause the IRS can sieze cash in a safe deposit box until you can prove any taxes owed have been paid. It happens quite often.

    $200,000 cash would convince most judges to sign a warrant I suspect.

    Which leads back to rule #1, don't tell people what you put in your safe :)
     
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    200 k in a cheap safe? why does my spidey sense tingle
     
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    I can assure you that a 500 pound safe is not the proper safe for $200K worth of anything, let alone cash. A 1 cubic foot safe with the proper rating for that type of cash would weigh around 700 pounds. A safe large enough for guns with the proper rating would weigh closer to 5,000 pounds.

    Gun safes are called gun safes for a reason. Contrary to what BS the manufacturer spews, they should not be used for valuables or cash.
     
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    I agree with a1abdj 100 per cent on this one.
    I would not be able to walk out the door of my home with 200 k in cash sitting in a 500 pound 12 gauge safe.
    With that much money a small TL-30 safe could have been purchased and secured.
    Those thieves hit the jack pot with that heist.
    Dont you necessarily believe that thieves knew the home owner cause this BS happens each and every day in all 50 states in this country.
    It's constant.
    Good neighborhoods and bad.
    It's constant.
     
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    Yep, 1% of that cash could have bought all the security he would have needed.

    Hope they find the scum that did this... of course... he could be involved with the "theft" himself.:scrutiny:
     
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    With that kind of cash in my safe, I would never leave the house.... I would be sitting in front of my safe...AR in hand... stroking the safe and saying "myyy presciousssss"
     
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    And don’t put all your eggs in one basket.


    Unless it was HIS intent to have it all come up missing. Hmmmmmmmm.
     
  17. danprkr

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    You need to google RICO abuses. Trust me, they steal from us all the time.
     
  18. The Lone Haranguer

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    Anyone can steal anything if they have enough time and determination. Bolting the safe to the floor beams and/or wall studs might have prevented this ... or might not. A 500-lb. safe can be moved easily with two strong men and an appliance dolly. Even if someone saw them, they might just assume they were legitimate movers. (In some neighborhoods I've lived in, the neighbors might even help. :mad:)
     
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    I wonder if he (or his "close friend") had $200k he didn't want anyone to know about, like IRS, DEA, or another alphabet soup agency.
    I wouldn't trust any RSC with that kind of cash.
     
  20. padd54

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    This is almost like the day I lost all my guns in a boating accident.
     
  21. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    Shouldn't put a gun safe full of guns on a rowboat eh?
     
  22. Blackbeard

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    Well there's yer problem. Odds are he told too many people about it, too.
     
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    Hmm.. I too smell a rat. They had to know what they were going for, because they waited till he was gone for an extended period and then took the required equipment to take the safe, and were gone with it. Your average burgler looking for silver and your wife's pearls isn't going to be prepared for that level of heist. I have a feeling that if he wasn't in on it, he said too much too loud in IHOP one morning, and that was that. Also, the prospect of 200K could turn a "friend" real fast. Seems real fishy at best.
     
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    Good luck getting the $200,000 back.
     
  25. Zack

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    Who would keep 200k in their home? and go on a trip! I would have had it in a vault.
     
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